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in 230.3 it clearly states that service conductors supplying a building or other structure shall not pass through the interior of another building or other structure. In a condo presently being built the service to each unit is being passed through other units panels and the neutrals are being landed on these panels and fed to the next unit from that panel. Is this in violation of the code or is there another section in the code book i cannot find allowing this to be legal?
 
wow that sounds like a bad idea! i would use 230.3 as the basis for not allowing this too. also some codes on accessibility.


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how many panels are being fed-through? i'm curious as to what size OCPD they have at the service and what the connected load is going through each panel. are these 100A feed through panels?
 
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rjdad82 said:
in 230.3 it clearly states that service conductors supplying a building or other structure shall not pass through the interior of another building or other structure. In a condo presently being built the service to each unit is being passed through other units panels and the neutrals are being landed on these panels and fed to the next unit from that panel. Is this in violation of the code or is there another section in the code book i cannot find allowing this to be legal?
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Did you really see service conductors, or did you see feeders? Methinks you saw feeders.
 
mdshunk said:
Did you really see service conductors, or did you see feeders? Methinks you saw feeders.
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i would hate to think of some unsuspecting electrician disconnecting the neutral feeding the neighbor's panel w/o realizing it.
 
brantmacga said:
i would hate to think of some unsuspecting electrician disconnecting the neutral feeding the neighbor's panel w/o realizing it.
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Right, which is why I think this was a feeder, and the EGC was landed in the panels. Maybe even a riser panel with riser taps.

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yes they were feeders, 200 amp panels, 4 total single phase all fed from a 3 phase service splitting the phases, one ab, another bc,another ca etc. is this legal by some exception, i saw the picture in the reply you sent, seems totally unsafe to me.
 
rjdad82 said:
yes they were feeders, 200 amp panels, 4 total single phase all fed from a 3 phase service splitting the phases, one ab, another bc,another ca etc. is this legal by some exception, i saw the picture in the reply you sent, seems totally unsafe to me.
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Everything is unsafe to the unqualified...


I find your avatar disturbing also...
 
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rjdad82 said:
yes they were feeders, 200 amp panels, 4 total single phase all fed from a 3 phase service splitting the phases, one ab, another bc,another ca etc. is this legal by some exception, i saw the picture in the reply you sent, seems totally unsafe to me.
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I just had a telephone conversation with a man the other day who was present at the NFPA for discussions when the gutter space tap limitation was put into the code (70's ?). It was intended to stop such splices in the panel unless sufficient gutter space was provided. It was the goal, at that time, for such splices to be done in a junction box next to the panel. The manufacturers countered by simply shifted the "guts" of the panel to one side and called it a "riser panel" to provide sufficient gutter space for the taps. This is not only safe, but permitted as long as you have enough gutter space. The feeder itself has overcurrent protection (maybe 400 amps), and each tap has overcurrent protection once it travels the 6" over to hit the main breaker in each tenant panel. A very economical installation.
 
I find your avatar disturbing also...


sorry if i offended you, i didn't know it would get to you on a personal level
 
Your avatar is not very family oriented You like to kick kids around it seems. Why dont you try kicking me? I think I can give you the response you are looking for tough guy.
 
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