Panel upside down?

[Security101]

So not only are you "inspecting" and commenting on other peoples work (work that is actually fine) you'd go ahead and re work it too.

Nice.

Having dealt with some know-it-alls on occasion, who actually were clueless busy bodies, I preffer you do your job and I do mine.

I'll leave your comments alone as it's not polite for me to come to a knife fight with a bazooka.:grin:

When you get a little more life experience under your belt (I've browsed some of your other posts) maybe we can be cool with each other - aye?

Looks like you may still have something good to offer here, we'll see...

Jim

 

[Weaver Road]

I'm here to learn also!

I'm here to learn also!

So not only are you "inspecting" and commenting on other peoples work (work that is actually fine) you'd go ahead and re work it too.

Nice.

Having dealt with some know-it-alls on occasion, who actually were clueless busy bodies, I preffer you do your job and I do mine.

Electricmanscott,
I don't have the kind of posts and experience that you probably do, so I would certainly respect your input as I read all these threads and learn each day. But your criticism leaves you wide open for the same to come back at you.

You said in parenthesis that the work is actually fine, that very question is why the OP started this thread, because he wasn't sure! And that's why I read this thread, because I wasn't sure!

Everything else is just bully-talk or wrong. Including the comment about each doing their own thing. If two licensed electricians work in the same panel and I am inspecting the work, I am bringing both guys or gals in to explain (if that was wrong). You both spend your valuable time, you both should be at least interested in the correctness of the same enclosure you are both working in.

Get back of your podium and teach me something, my ears and mind are open.

 

[B4T]

Having dealt with some know-it-alls on occasion, who actually were clueless busy bodies, I preffer you do your job and I do mine.[/QUOTE]

the guys heart is in the right place.. I really don't see a problem with his logic. Too many people only see "their job" and care less what is going on around them.

 

[LarryFine]

I'll leave your comments alone as it's not polite for me to come to a knife fight with a bazooka.:grin:

"I don't need a bazooka; I've got a Donk."

 

[electricmanscott]

I'll leave your comments alone as it's not polite for me to come to a knife fight with a bazooka.:grin:

When you get a little more life experience under your belt (I've browsed some of your other posts) maybe we can be cool with each other - aye?

Looks like you may still have something good to offer here, we'll see...

Jim

Oh the sleepless nights I'll have waiting for your approval.

Maybe my point hasn't been made very clearly.

From what I've read here we have a security contractor working on a project and an electrical contractor working on a project. The electrical contractor is doing his installation, properly, and the security contactor feels the need to question it for some reason. When you start ripping another subs work it makes them look like idiots to the homeowner and gc. It also doesn't do much for how people on the job view you if they find out your talking crap behind their backs.

I have been down this road. Most recently with a tile contractor. While tiling a bathroom, he takes it upon himself to inform the home owner that the two receptacles near the sink, two I just installed, would have to be moved. Seems they are too close to the counter top and water could get into them.

Of course he scares the life out of the wory wart customer. I have to make a special trip out ther just to put her at ease.

Once people get it into their heads that something may be wrong or dangerous it is very difficult to convince them otherwise. The prospect of an electrical fire is not an easy thing for people to get over.


None of you has to agree but to you newbies just know that everything I say I believe and I call it like I see it. May not go over well but that is not going to keep me from speakig my mind.

Edit to add..You guys have no problem with a security contractor reworking some of your work (again work that is legal) to suit his likings????

 

[electricmanscott]

Electricmanscott,


Everything else is just bully-talk or wrong. Including the comment about each doing their own thing. If two licensed electricians work in the same panel and I am inspecting the work, I am bringing both guys or gals in to explain (if that was wrong). You both spend your valuable time, you both should be at least interested in the correctness of the same enclosure you are both working in.

Get back of your podium and teach me something, my ears and mind are open.

Your example is fine. Of course it does NOT apply to the situation we are discussing.

There. I just taught you something.

 

[Brady Electric]

Panel upside down

Panel upside down

I never have done that and never have seen but one in the last thirty years and it was three weeks ago.
It does seem like a good idea sometimes
Semper Fi Buddy

 

[ceknight]

Maybe my point hasn't been made very clearly.......From what I've read here we have a security contractor working on a project and an electrical contractor working on a project.....

At least now we can see where the problem is. You missed the parts about the HO installing the panel, the HO being a friend of the security contractor, and the security contractor just wanting to know if the stuff his friend did was OK. And the part about the security contractor coming to us first to make sure his fears were unfounded before saying anything to his friend the HO.

Your example is fine. Of course it does NOT apply to the situation we are discussing.

Neither did yours, apparently.

 

[electricmanscott]

Ok I'll take the heat. I did read it wrong. Slam away!

It's makes me even sicker now that I see the HO/GC is playing electrician.

 

[roger3829]

What exactly is your concern??

Nothing worse than another sub on the job going around nit picking your work. Even worse when they don't even know what they are talking about.

Maybe this is a little harsh but seriously.

Really?

I was just on a job the other day installing a security system in a new house for a friend of mine. While working I noticed the recessed light fixtures on the slope ceiling were standard fixtures, not slope fixtures. So I mentioned that to the HO and told him he should check with the GC/EC to see what was up. The EC said that they were going to install eyeball trims in the fixtures.

Not my way of doing things, but also not my job. I mentioned it to the HO only because he was a friend. I didn't get the electrical part of the job because the house was in a development where the major subs were locked in.

I see no problem if someone who is QUALIFIED asks a question.

 

[Security101]

Ok I'll take the heat. I did read it wrong. Slam away!

Apology accepted!:wink: Onward we go...

It's makes me even sicker now that I see the HO/GC is playing electrician.

Unfortunately we live in a state that allows the HO to be GC AND EC with self permits (heck we don't even require EC licensing any more - as a state - even though most local gov's still do)

I know that my posts show I'm a newbee "here" and I've held off from pushing credentials and stuff, but you should probably know that I was an EC for close to 25 yrs, fire marshal for 5 yrs, then switched over to the LV side because of preference (and security/fire alarms have always been my forte) in 1999 and have been steady at it to date. I still keep quite abreast of the EC codes and have assisted many a EC and GC with issues as they arise.

I don't believe in "scaring the customer" unduly for any issue, and have brought dangerous issues to the attention of the contractor only if it should be done. I too don't like others who (usually just to make themselves look better suited for the job) stab others in the back. I respect all contractors (that's how I've managed to stay in business for 35+ years in the trades).

We wont even get into all the "shocking experiences" I had as a kid:grin:

"On to the next!"

Jim

 

[electricmanscott]

Apology accepted!:wink: Onward we go...

Jim

Ahh but I did not apologize.

But I do now. I read the question wrong and went on an undeserved rampage. It was uncalled for and for that I now apologize.

However everything I said, based on the way I mistakenly read the question I absolutely mean although in this case it doesn't apply.