Panelboard in toilet.

[480sparky]

Quit pointing out my mistakes, I said my coffee hasn't kicked in yet.

Chris

How weak do you make your coffee, Chris? Maybe another half-scoop will help. Then again, are you using decaf? :smile:

I, personally, wouldn't put the panel in any bath/toilet/potty/Kybo/powder room/washroom/water closet area myself. Behind the door from the hall works fine for me.

 

[raider1]

How weak do you make your coffee, Chris? Maybe another half-scoop will help. Then again, are you using decaf? :smile:

Maybe I should start eating it out of the can with a spoon.

Here is my question:

Is a small room that houses a toilet that is only accessed from an area that has a sink and a bathtub a separate area? Or is it part of the bathroom area?

My personal opinion is that a "toilet room" within a larger area that contains a bathtub or shower and a sink is in fact in the bathroom area and overcurrent devices would be prohibited in a residential or hotel/motel setting.

Chris

 

[tallguy]

But it isn't a 'bathroom.'

Try making that argument to the inspector... He'd get a good chuckle out of it anyway...

 

[480sparky]

Here is my question:

Is a small room that houses a toilet that is only accessed from an area that has a sink and a bathtub a separate area? Or is it part of the bathroom area?

I think the term 'area' is wide open to interpretation. Is the area definied by walls, intented use, a certain distance, whether or not the AHJ has had his coffee? Sounds like a question for the inspector then.

I agree, if it's a small room within a larger room, then it's part of the bathroom. But now we're trying to qualify the question by inserting more information into it that the OP had. My OK was based on a strict reading of the original question.

 

[raider1]

I think the term 'area' is wide open to interpretation. Is the area definied by walls, intented use, a certain distance, whether or not the AHJ has had his coffee? Sounds like a question for the inspector then.

I agree, if it's a small room within a larger room, then it's part of the bathroom. But now we're trying to qualify the question by inserting more information into it that the OP had. My OK was based on a strict reading of the original question.

I know that I have muddled up the original question with my assertion that there is probably more to this area then just a toilet. I am hoping that the OPer will clarify this question.

You know I think the coffee is starting to kick in.

Chris

 

[earshavewalls]

I really think it's funny, with all of the possible places you could install a panel, why would some insist on installing it in a toilet room, closet, or any other such area?
Unless you have the main on the other side of the wall and are just plain cheap........
I was an electrical contractor for years before I got into inforcement. It always irked me when one of the cheap contractors undercut me by performing non-compliant work, usually without a permit. Then it REALLY bugged me when I would run into them at the local watering hole, and they would brag about getting away with such an installation.
Oh, well, I guess that's what I call "Job Security" now.......

 

[LarryFine]

Assuming all the required clearances have been met, what section of the NEC prevents one from installing a panelboard in the toilet?

If it's Federal Pacific, it may actually be a requirement. :grin:

I would, however, like to see sinks in the Porta-Potties on the job site.

Then we couldn't mount temp panels in temp bathrooms.

 

[stickboy1375]

I would, however, like to see sinks in the Porta-Potties on the job site.

You mean to tell those bowls on the side aren't sinks??? Hmmm....

 

[LarryFine]

You mean to tell those bowls on the side aren't sinks??? Hmmm....

Oh, ga-ross! :roll: Should I ask what you rinse with? :grin:

 

[iwire]

Lets leave the toilet jokes on the playground.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Assuming all the required clearances have been met, what section of the NEC prevents one from installing a panelboard in the toilet?

You cannot install a panelboard "in the toilet". It would have to be suitable for wet location and pretty difficult to mount without breaking the porcelain.

Lets leave the toilet jokes on the playground.

Larry, does this qualify as a censor. Add one more to the list.:grin: I will probably get censored now.

 

[suemarkp]

Do you have the required working space in front of this panelboard?

 

[TOOL_5150]

I would, however, like to see sinks in the Porta-Potties on the job site. Wonder if they would use blue water?

Here in california, sinks are usually standard next to the port-a-potties at a construction site. Check this site out... Most of the sinks look somewhat like the first one: http://www.unitedsiteservices.com/construction/products/portable-sinks.html


~Matt