panelborad change ,,,AFCI req?

[ndc81167]

Hi guys,,
can anyone tell me if the NEC covers the topic of existing panlebaord changes and if there are requirements of afci breakers for bedroom outlets

 

[SmithBuilt]

It would be very hard to install on older circuits that probably have shared neutrals. My inspection office says we do not have to install on replacements.


But to be sure I would call the inspector.

 

[LarryFine]

In my opinion, a new panel does not mean new receptacle installations, so no. AFCI requirements pertain to receptacles installed after the requirement's inception.

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

AFCI requirements are for new installations of branch circuits. By changing out a breaker it is my opinion that a new circuit has not been installed.

If one were to extend the circuit, that would be another case.

 

[LarryFine]

If one were to extend the circuit, that would be another case.

If, by "extend," you mean adding outlets, I agree. If you mean lengthening home runs to a new panel location, then no.

 

[cowboyjwc]

It would be very hard to install on older circuits that probably have shared neutrals. My inspection office says we do not have to install on replacements.


But to be sure I would call the inspector.

While we don't require it here, I have heard of some jurisdictions that do so I would agree with Tim that a phone call could save you a lot of time.

 

[M. D.]

AFCI requirements are for new installations of branch circuits. By changing out a breaker it is my opinion that a new circuit has not been installed.

If one were to extend the circuit, that would be another case.

How about if the existing circuit provides for outlets in areas that now would require AFCI but the extension was for an outlet in an area that does not ..??

I think in Ma. rule 3 would allow this

Rule 3. Additions or modifications to an existing installation shall be made in accordance with this Code without bringing the remaining part of the installation into compliance with the requirements of this Code. The installation shall not create a violation of this Code, nor shall it increase the magnitude of an existing violation

 

[Keith E.]

If, by "extend," you mean adding outlets, I agree. If you mean lengthening home runs to a new panel location, then no.

While we don't require it here, I have heard of some jurisdictions that do so I would agree with Tim that a phone call could save you a lot of time.

The first quote reflects our interpretation while the second quote is a good procedure always.

Keith