Peninsula counter receptacle
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
Maybe...If you have anything in the peninsular/island countertop, cooktop, sink, refrig, etc, then you have 2 spaces and will need a recept in each space unless the countertop extends more than 6" beyond it's base. It can come off the countertop circuit or any other small appliance branch circuit of 210.11 (C)(1) and 210.52 (B)(1-5). I don't think the countertop recept at the intersection you speak of satisfies the intent of the code. You still have to consider the lenth of wall space. If the peninsular is less than 2' you may can get away with it.
[ August 15, 2004, 04:34 PM: Message edited by: necbuff ]
Maybe...If you have anything in the peninsular/island countertop, cooktop, sink, refrig, etc, then you have 2 spaces and will need a recept in each space unless the countertop extends more than 6" beyond it's base. It can come off the countertop circuit or any other small appliance branch circuit of 210.11 (C)(1) and 210.52 (B)(1-5). I don't think the countertop recept at the intersection you speak of satisfies the intent of the code. You still have to consider the lenth of wall space. If the peninsular is less than 2' you may can get away with it.
[ August 15, 2004, 04:34 PM: Message edited by: necbuff ]
russ
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
The 24 inch deep counter that is against the wall is one counter space by it's self and requires a receptacle. The peninsula that butts up against that counter, is a separate counter space and is required to have it's own receptacle.
The 24 inch deep counter that is against the wall is one counter space by it's self and requires a receptacle. The peninsula that butts up against that counter, is a separate counter space and is required to have it's own receptacle.
physis
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
210.52(B)(3): At leat one receptacle outlet shall be installed at each peninsular counter space with a long dimension of 24" or greater and a short dimension of 12" or greater. A peninsular countertop is measured from the connecting edge.
I guess the question lands on "at". Is the counter receptacle "at" the peninsula?
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[ August 15, 2004, 04:52 PM: Message edited by: physis ]
210.52(B)(3): At leat one receptacle outlet shall be installed at each peninsular counter space with a long dimension of 24" or greater and a short dimension of 12" or greater. A peninsular countertop is measured from the connecting edge.
I guess the question lands on "at". Is the counter receptacle "at" the peninsula?
Editted misspell.
[ August 15, 2004, 04:52 PM: Message edited by: physis ]
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
If the penninsular is unbroken by sinks/cooktops etc. then only one required.Good practice would have more if a long penninsular,JMHO
If the penninsular is unbroken by sinks/cooktops etc. then only one required.Good practice would have more if a long penninsular,JMHO
mthead
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
If the peninsula is unbroken by.....,and if the distanc from where the peninsula meets the cntr. edge and its end is less than 2'---the you don't need the recpt at end--
If the peninsula is unbroken by.....,and if the distanc from where the peninsula meets the cntr. edge and its end is less than 2'---the you don't need the recpt at end--
volt101
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
Necbuff:
Necbuff:
With the wording you provided, it could be very misleading, such as if you have a countertop space with a larger then 6" overhang on the back side and on the end, we don't need a receptacle?
sandsnow
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
We do pilot inspections before they go into full production. They had roughed in the recep on the end of the peninsula. They had to construct the counter so that it met the 6 inch reqment.
Architectural design does not supercede the NEC, though architects and designers may disagree
We do pilot inspections before they go into full production. They had roughed in the recep on the end of the peninsula. They had to construct the counter so that it met the 6 inch reqment.
Architectural design does not supercede the NEC, though architects and designers may disagree
sandsnow
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
sounds like wall counter space against the wall and a peninsula. Two receps required - one on the wall and one out on the peninsula
sounds like wall counter space against the wall and a peninsula. Two receps required - one on the wall and one out on the peninsula
russ
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
physis
I would tend to go with the depth of the rest of the counter space along the same wall. What ever extended out beyond that I would consider the peninsula.
physis
I would tend to go with the depth of the rest of the counter space along the same wall. What ever extended out beyond that I would consider the peninsula.
physis
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
On this one the GC put a 4' high wall behind the peninsula. The length was over 6'. I installed 2 receptacles on the peninsula and on the other side of the wall I installed 1 for 210.52(A)(2)(1)(a subsection with a subsection). Before the wall was going to be installed I was just scratchin my chin wondering if it would work. You guys seem somewhat unanymous I'm not getting far with this.
Can I invoke the "it's to hard I don't have to rule"?
On this one the GC put a 4' high wall behind the peninsula. The length was over 6'. I installed 2 receptacles on the peninsula and on the other side of the wall I installed 1 for 210.52(A)(2)(1)(a subsection with a subsection). Before the wall was going to be installed I was just scratchin my chin wondering if it would work. You guys seem somewhat unanymous I'm not getting far with this.
Can I invoke the "it's to hard I don't have to rule"?
volt102
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
The general rule is that the receptacle is to be mounted above. With the exception, it could be permitted to be installed below, only if the over hang is less then 6", but if it is more, then it is simply not permitted to be there. The exception here does not waive the code article in this case. The receptacle is still required.
So a tombstone would be required.
The general rule is that the receptacle is to be mounted above. With the exception, it could be permitted to be installed below, only if the over hang is less then 6", but if it is more, then it is simply not permitted to be there. The exception here does not waive the code article in this case. The receptacle is still required.
So a tombstone would be required.
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Re: Peninsula counter receptacle
Ok what about one inside the cabinet,front side and within required measurments.front I mean the door side nothing in the NEC prohibits this installation as far as I can see(have been allowed in a condo complex)It`s accesible,less than 6 ins. of overhang and if placed right within 8 ins. of the countertop.It amazes me that a plan can be approved by the EI and tagged on installation.sure the disclaimer is there,but why approve it ??????
Ok what about one inside the cabinet,front side and within required measurments.front I mean the door side nothing in the NEC prohibits this installation as far as I can see(have been allowed in a condo complex)It`s accesible,less than 6 ins. of overhang and if placed right within 8 ins. of the countertop.It amazes me that a plan can be approved by the EI and tagged on installation.sure the disclaimer is there,but why approve it ??????
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