Pigtailing

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iwire said:
No he is not joking, think of the terminal on a Square D breaker, it is a screw with a square 'washer' that allows you to place one conductor under each side of the screw. The conductors do not wrap around the screw.
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I thought he was talking about a loop-through under the screw with no break.

[edit: until I re-read it]
 
I see no need to pig tail, unless a mwbc of course, Ive seen more crappy wirenut joints than I have seen feed thru recpts cause a prob. Unless your refering soley to the back-stab type connection in which case I would say outlaw them.
 
POWER_PIG said:
I see no need to pig tail, unless a mwbc of course, Ive seen more crappy wirenut joints than I have seen feed thru recpts cause a prob. Unless your refering soley to the back-stab type connection in which case I would say outlaw them.
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I would have thought you would be all for "Pig tails"
 
480sparky said:
I pigtail no matter what. And I abhor those who don't.
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I pigtail everything because that's the way I was taught. I do think it makes a better connection and is easier to trouble shoot if something does go wrong

But, I don't really worry about it if others don't share in my opinion about the proper way of doing things. They probably received different training where speed was the all important factor.

Plus those guys that don't pigtail have made me a lot of money. I just changed out every receptacle in a small house. Loose connections. :D
 
480sparky said:
I pigtail no matter what. And I abhor those who don't. I just posted this to 'set the record straight'.
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Call me what you will, but I dont except when forced to. I paid good money for them wirenuts, and I ain't gonna waste them.;)
 
iwire said:
Some times I pigtail, some times I don't. :smile:
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I might as well collect some brownie points here and agree with Bob.



I'll add that I abhor those that imply that the lack of pigtailing is an inferior quality job. :D ;)
 
I always pig tail too. I had a wiring book that said it was the only proper way to wire an outlet but it never did give an NEC reference. Pig tailing is usualy neater and does make things fit in the boxes better.
 
iaov said:
I always pig tail too. I had a wiring book that said it was the only proper way to wire an outlet but it never did give an NEC reference. Pig tailing is usualy neater and does make things fit in the boxes better.
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How does adding 2 nuts and more wire make it neater?
 
iaov said:
Its not the paint, its the artist.:)
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Thats a little more
sm##t a###d than I originaly intended. My original qoute contained the word "usualy" and I'll stick by the statement. Certainly there are times where wire nuts are in the way but usualy (theres that word again) we're talking about situations involving box fill violations.:)
 
i caught hell as an apprentice for pigtailing receptacles on a job. the guy said it taken too long to do that and just use the screws. ive been using the screws ever since and never had a problem. sometimes i still do pigtail when i feel like it
 
Okay, I'll chime in:

I pigtail when I want to, say with three cables in a receptacle box, or if I'm adding a third to an existing one. I pigtail the incoming and outgoing run, and put the new cable on the other receptacle screws.

Of course, a MWBC's neutral gets pigtailed every time, even with handle-tied breakers. Sometimes, old work requires extending original wiring. I've never been told a job's specs required it, though.

Now that I think about it, I have pigtailed when, say, I wanted to energize a circuit during roughing in. I pre-pigtailed the receptacles, so trimming out required only adding the pigtails to the splices.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
That does not make it a quality job just a legal one.If your working under me get use to pigtails fast.
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I can't even read past this hogwash. :roll: :roll:

Good luck with this topic. :roll: :roll:

Cool old NEC though. :grin:
 
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