Plans for lighting permit

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dpb

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Electrical contractor
Has anyone been asked for plans from their building department for a permit for adding a few canless lights and fan boxes?
I went to work in a city i don't usually, went to register and pull a permit, which i don't even do much for a few lights but this one seemed like a good idea, and they said they would want plans for it. I've literally never been asked for plans in my normal work area unless it's a larger project in which case i usually already have plans im working from a GC.
Not really looking for advice as i already submitted some crappy plans i made really quick, I'm just wondering if other people are doing this all the time.
 
Has anyone been asked for plans
Electrical contractors must always provide a site plan, if not stamped plans in my area. Doesn't matter what they're doing.

4-canless lights require a ~$200 permit in my area, all cities follow the same Uniform Building Code 105.
 
Not really looking for advice as i already submitted some crappy plans i made really quick, I'm just wondering if other people are doing this all the time.
Yes, I have submitted more planning docs than I thought necessary to over zealous building departments. I'm guessing you didn't really submit crappy plans, but just simple, less professional plans, and that is A-OK
 
Has anyone been asked for plans from their building department for a permit for adding a few canless lights and fan boxes?
I went to work in a city i don't usually, went to register and pull a permit, which i don't even do much for a few lights but this one seemed like a good idea, and they said they would want plans for it. I've literally never been asked for plans in my normal work area unless it's a larger project in which case i usually already have plans im working from a GC.
Not really looking for advice as i already submitted some crappy plans i made really quick, I'm just wondering if other people are doing this all the time.
You will find many differences between building departments, just keep notes on what different cities require. I have submitted hand pencil sketches for jobs like that.
 
ah well looks like i have it lucky in most my cities if they do accept the plans i provided then it really wasn't bad. I know i should have given more time being a city i am unfamiliar with but job is scheduled tomorrow and they still haven't approved it. I'm spoiled in my normal area where i can walk into the building department, register and pull a permit same day. I didn't even think to take measurements of the rooms for plans while i was there so I didn't have them for the plans
 
Electrical contractors must always provide a site plan, if not stamped plans in my area. Doesn't matter what they're doing.

4-canless lights require a ~$200 permit in my area, all cities follow the same Uniform Building Code 105.
That is absolutely crazy. How can a homeowner pay that? That just forces people to do illegal work. That is wrong.
 
Really depends on the Twp. I’ve submitted hand drawn lighting designs and have gotten permits no problem. Others wanted engineered stamped plans. In my experience it all depends on the complexity of the job, cost, and the twp itself. A lot of times just walk in explain how simple of a job it is chances are you can submit a basic hand written plan and you’re done.
 
That is absolutely crazy. How can a homeowner pay that? That just forces people to do illegal work. That is wrong.
It makes perfect sense, since remodels are infested by hack jobs that now explode upon ignition.

And property insurance sees you coming, cancels and non-renews, making owners liable for their own illegal activity, and construction defects.

It follows the indemnity clause for owner-builder permits, where AHJ’s will agree to inspect for safety only, without liability for illegal, unlicensed, or un-insured laborers.

Banksters, taxsters, and insurers, rely on homeowners to screw themselves, so everyone else is indemnified, after the property is molested by DIY, underground-hack jobs, or California General Contractors, doing electrical with untrained laborers.

You take the red pill, and the Matrix sees you coming, with your illegal remodels, and missing permits, while you remain blissfully liable for a total loss.

With all my relatives unable to afford to maintain their dilapidated homes, relying on me to fix everything for free, it seems peak real-estate, and real-estate bubbles, also make home ownership a Venus fly trap. Its a beautiful and tasty smell that hides the money pit, which ends with impoverished suckers.
 
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