Plastic zip ties to hold MC cable, in a commercial blg?

[Stevenfyeager]

Is it ok to use plastic zip ties to support MC cable in a commercial building ? Thank you

 

[ActionDave]

Yes. 330.30 (A)

 

[hnieves85]

Is it ok to use plastic zip ties to support MC cable in a commercial building ? Thank you

They have to be rated for cable support

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[lordofthisworld]

Is it ok to use plastic zip ties to support MC cable in a commercial building ? Thank you

yes.

 

[69gp]

Is it ok to use plastic zip ties to support MC cable in a commercial building ? Thank you

If the cables are in a plenum then you need to use plenum rated cable zip ties

 

[peter d]

Yes, and there are probably trillions of them holding up MC cable in buildings across the country.

 

[hnieves85]

Code 334.30

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[iwire]

Yes, and there are probably trillions of them holding up MC cable in buildings across the country.

The master has spoken.

 

[tom baker]

2017 NEC requires cable ties to be listed for cable support. Someone said the its the ties with the ss barb in the head...

 

[peter d]

The master has spoken.

I'm dying over here. :rotflmao::rotflmao:

 

[Saturn_Europa]

I just did it today.

Ran 50' of MC cable down a hall way above a suspended ceiling. There was this gorgeous piece of 1" rigid aluminum conduit heading to the same location. Couldn't resist myself and violated the heck out of 300.11 B

I may be going to hell for that one!

 

[peter d]

The master has spoken.

Correction, that's Master.

 

[peter d]

I just did it today.

Ran 50' of MC cable down a hall way above a suspended ceiling. There was this gorgeous piece of 1" rigid aluminum conduit heading to the same location. Couldn't resist myself and violated the heck out of 300.11 B

I may be going to hell for that one!

You shouldn't even call yourself an electrician anymore. :happysad:

 

[JFletcher]

I just did it today.

Ran 50' of MC cable down a hall way above a suspended ceiling. There was this gorgeous piece of 1" rigid aluminum conduit heading to the same location. Couldn't resist myself and violated the heck out of 300.11 B

I may be going to hell for that one!

haha. Wouldnt rigid be rated to support cables tho?

 

[Saturn_Europa]

haha. Wouldnt rigid be rated to support cables tho?

300.11

B) Raceways Used as Means of Support. Raceways
shall be used only as a means of support for other raceways,
cables, or nonelectrical equipment under any of the
following conditions:
(1) Where the raceway or means of support is identified for
the purpose
(2) Where the raceway contains power supply conductors
for electrically controlled equipment and is used to support
Class 2 circuit conductors or cables that are solely
for the purpose of connection to the equipment control
circuits
(3) Where the raceway is used to support boxes or conduit
bodies in accordance with 314.23 or to support luminaires
in accordance with 410.36(E)

Honestly, I don't even know where to look to see if 1" rigid aluminum conduit is identified to support 12/3 w/G MC cable. I didn't see anything in Art 344

I'm calling it a gray area

 

[MNSparky]

Honestly, I don't even know where to look to see if 1" rigid aluminum conduit is identified to support 12/3 w/G MC cable. I didn't see anything in Art 344

I'm calling it a gray area

What ever helps you sleep at night!

I'M sure his excellency, "The Master", would never do such a hideous thing. :happyno:

 

[peter d]

What ever helps you sleep at night!

I'M sure his excellency, "The Master", would never do such a hideous thing. :happyno:

Never, I obey the code 100% of the time.

 

[Smart $]

Never, I obey the code 100% of the time.

(For other's reference, note he did not capitalize "code" )