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Alwayslearningelec

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Few questions. Running small job for first time right from the beginning.
1. For those that have worked on job with PM and super. Would you as the foreman only deal with with super and have the super deal with the PM or would you talk directly to the PM. Seems pretty obvious the foreman has to comminicate with the PM on many issues...e.g. ordering, drawings/scope issues etc.
2. Regarding dimensions obviously you need AFF dims for receptacles but would you require horizontal dims for any reason?
 
Alwayslearningelec said:
Few questions. Running small job for first time right from the beginning.
1. For those that have worked on job with PM and super. Would you as the foreman only deal with with super and have the super deal with the PM or would you talk directly to the PM. Seems pretty obvious the foreman has to comminicate with the PM on many issues...e.g. ordering, drawings/scope issues etc.
2. Regarding dimensions obviously you need AFF dims for receptacles but would you require horizontal dims for any reason?
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1. If the job is large enough to have both a PM and a super, go through the super unless otherwise directed. The super is there to filter out stuff that the PM doesn't need to see or deal with and only pass on things that the PM must deal with. If a job is well organized, there should be a defined hierarchy of responsibilities for who deals with what issues.
2. Horizontal dimensions can be very important, especially in a commercial setting, if an outlet, for example, needs to serve a piece of equipment that's going to be set in a particular location.
 
gadfly56 said:
2. Horizontal dimensions can be very important, especially in a commercial setting, if an outlet, for example, needs to serve a piece of equipment that's going to be set in a particular location.
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That said, be sure to look at the architectural drawings. They probably have a different location to provide service to equipment, cabinets, etc..

Ron
 
Alwayslearningelec said:
If you have receptacles not service equipment would you still need any horizontal dims?
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Are we talking commercial or residential here? These days it's unlikely that any commercial project will leave the location of even convenience receptacles to the whims of the electrician. As rc/retired says, check the architectural as well as the electrical drawings. Don't get crucified by any discrepancies between them.

If it's residential tract, they will be all laid out. If residential custom; well, they'll be laid out too. Just mind any instances where the architect skimped on code-required locations.
 
gadfly56 said:
Are we talking commercial or residential here? These days it's unlikely that any commercial project will leave the location of even convenience receptacles to the whims of the electrician. As rc/retired says, check the architectural as well as the electrical drawings. Don't get crucified by any discrepancies between them.

If it's residential tract, they will be all laid out. If residential custom; well, they'll be laid out too. Just mind any instances where the architect skimped on code-required locations.
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Commercial and there are no horz dims. Engineer saod use the drawings which is true to scale for these dims.
 
Alwayslearningelec said:
Commercial and there are no horz dims. Engineer saod use the drawings which is true to scale for these dims.
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Send an e-mail reply to the engineer: "Per our discussion on xx/xx/xx and your direction, the horizontal location of outlets will be determined by scaling the electrical/architectural drawings."

Let the GC or owner have the bad location food fight with the engineer.
 
If a measurement isn’t called out on the print, the receptacle goes on the closest stud with a stud bracket. If there’s a hard measurement, I’ll grab a telescoping bracket and put it dead on. This seems pretty typical in my area. If it has to be perfect, say for a water fountain, the measurement is on the floor plan.
 
MattG0311 said:
If a measurement isn’t called out on the print, the receptacle goes on the closest stud with a stud bracket. If there’s a hard measurement, I’ll grab a telescoping bracket and put it dead on. This seems pretty typical in my area. If it has to be perfect, say for a water fountain, the measurement is on the floor plan.
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Receptacles also go between studs
 
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