pool light junction box

[DaveBowden]

I have a customer who is remodeling his pool deck area. The junction box for his pool light is sticking up in the middle of the deck and he wants to convert it to a box that is flush with the deck pavers. I've seen this type of installation before but I can't find anywhere that has the right box. The existing box has a 1 inch rigid conduit with a threadless connector coming from the niche, a 3/4 inch PVC conduit coming from the transformer, and a 3/4 PVC sleeve with the pool bond wire in it. Anyone know where I can find the box I need?

 

[fishin' electrician]

The only ones I've ever seen flush were for fiber optic lighting. Check in Art 680, there are rules regarding height above water line.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Read 680.24(A)(2) -- the jb must be 8" above the water level and 4" above the pool deck whichever is greater

 

[DaveBowden]

Read 680.24(A)(2)(c) Flush deck box

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Read 680.24(A)(2)(c) Flush deck box

So does this preclude the height requirement? It does not seem to mention whether (a) & (b) can be overlooked.

 

[DaveBowden]

It can't be flush and stick up in the air 4 to 8 inches, so yes it does. 680.24(A)(2) specifically says if OVER 15 volts then (A)(2)(a) and 680.24(A)(2)(b) apply but if 15 volts OR LESS then 680.24(A)(2)(c) shall be permitted.

 

[Strife]

Isn't there an exception allowing it same level as the water if it's GFI protected or something?

Read 680.24(A)(2) -- the jb must be 8" above the water level and 4" above the pool deck whichever is greater

 

[Dennis Alwon]

It can't be flush and stick up in the air 4 to 8 inches, so yes it does. 680.24(A)(2) specifically says if OVER 15 volts then (A)(2)(a) and 680.24(A)(2)(b) apply but if 15 volts OR LESS then 680.24(A)(2)(c) shall be permitted.

Yes it can if the deck is 4" higher than the pool water and I missed the transformer part.