Pool receptacles

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tjmicsak

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Is UF cable allowed for pools or does all branch circuit wiring have to be in a conduit or raceway? The way I read it 680.21 is refering to just the motors, and a raceway or conduit is required. 680.22 refers to receptacles, and there is no spec on wiring methods. Can the general purpose receptacle be installed with UF?
 
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The general purpose out let is not required to have an insulated ground so you could have uf. The actual pool outlet requires an insulated ground so you need to run individual conductors or equivalent.
 
I wouldn't use UF for pool receptacles. I'm not sure if code allows or not, but following code does not always ensure a good installation.
 
jeff kurtz said:
... following code does not always ensure a good installation.


Granted, code is bare minimum - but what is the purpose of the code, if not the practical safeguarding of persons and property from hazards arising from the use of electricity?
 
jeff kurtz said:
I wouldn't use UF for pool receptacles. I'm not sure if code allows or not, but following code does not always ensure a good installation.


What's wrong with UF cable buried 18" in the ground for a receptacle at least 10' from a pool? The radio that I'm pluggin' in doesn't even have a grounding prong. :D
 
infinity said:
What's wrong with UF cable buried 18" in the ground for a receptacle at least 10' from a pool? The radio that I'm pluggin' in doesn't even have a grounding prong. :D

I don't do it for two reasons. #1 I hate UF, #2 when a pool is installed the next thing you know the whole yard becomes concrete slowly but surely, and when there is a problem with that burried UF your done, with pipe you have a chance to fix it much easier.
 
bikeindy said:
infinity said:
What's wrong with UF cable buried 18" in the ground for a receptacle at least 10' from a pool? The radio that I'm pluggin' in doesn't even have a grounding prong. :D

I don't do it for two reasons. #1 I hate UF, #2 when a pool is installed the next thing you know the whole yard becomes concrete slowly but surely, and when there is a problem with that burried UF your done, with pipe you have a chance to fix it much easier.

Your now guilty of a hate crime.I do agree its hard to fix but then so is romex behind drywall.Do you do everything in pipe ?
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
Your now guilty of a hate crime.I do agree its hard to fix but then so is romex behind drywall.Do you do everything in pipe ?


In my experience drywall is just a little easier than concrete to remove and replace.
 
bikeindy said:
Jim W in Tampa said:
Your now guilty of a hate crime.I do agree its hard to fix but then so is romex behind drywall.Do you do everything in pipe ?


In my experience drywall is just a little easier than concrete to remove and replace.
True but what makes you think it will get damaged after it has concrete over it for added protection.Now if customer is willing to pay extra then great.
 
bikeindy said:

In my experience drywall is just a little easier than concrete to remove and replace.

I agree with you on this one, but I have seen 1" GMC with 3 12's where I had to dig up the conduit because I broke the wires trying to pull them out to pull new ones in. I guess there are pros and cons to both methods. :)
 
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