Pool sub panel ground

[sparkyjpb]

If installing a sub panel outside for an inground pool, does the feeder grounding conductor need to be insulated?
Also, there will be 2 pumps @ 240v, a convenience receptacle, and a light. Would you just install a gfci breaker in the main panel or on the the necessary circuits outside? Just seeking input and preferences. Thanks

 

[Little Bill]

If installing a sub panel outside for an inground pool, does the feeder grounding conductor need to be insulated?

Yes

 

[sparkyjpb]

Does it make a difference where it is outside-on the house or remote in the back yard?

 

[Little Bill]

Does it make a difference where it is outside-on the house or remote in the back yard?

I don't think so, but read 680.25

 

[sparkyjpb]

Thanks, up to speed on it now.
What do you think about the gfi's. Any reason not to just feed the whole panel from the main? Matter of preference?

 

[Little Bill]

Thanks, up to speed on it now.
What do you think about the gfi's. Any reason not to just feed the whole panel from the main? Matter of preference?

Yes and depending on the number of receptacles the cost between the breaker and GFCI receps.

 

[augie47]

You need to remember if you use a GFCI main on the feeder it is measuring leakage on ALL the branches. A slight leakage on one or two separate circuits might not trip the individual branch circuit GFCI but the cumulative amount would trip the main not to mention increase trouble shooting woes.

 

[Little Bill]

You need to remember if you use a GFCI main on the feeder it is measuring leakage on ALL the branches. A slight leakage on one or two separate circuits might not trip the individual branch circuit GFCI but the cumulative amount would trip the main not to mention increase trouble shooting woes.

Good point Gus, as always!:slaphead:

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I would never install a gfci for the panel. As Gus pointed out-- could be trouble and I am not sure it meets code as 680.23(A)(3) calls for a GFCI in the branch circuit.

Also if the panel is not on the building it is fed from then the sub panel must have either a main or use the 6 disconnect rule and also must have ground rods.