Power Outage

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mikeames

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So whats the verdict with the power outage in NYC... Just goes to show you how important our trade is. No electricity and whole cities are left in chaos, and gridlock, Clueless as to what they are going to do without the electrified energy... What a great Job we have harnesing and creating the pathways for the primary energy source in our lives. ;)
 
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jhines

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HOPE THIS ISN'T LIKE CALIFORNIA - GRAY OUT DAVIS AT WORK, $0.25 PER KWH AND THE UTILITY COMPANY FIGHTING COGENERATION.
 
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pierre

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Westchester County, New York
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My wife and daughter were in a store shopping and all the lights went out. The place went dark and people were screaming. They had to find their way out. Emergency lights did not come on, now we will see whose do and whose don't. I think this event will generate a lot of work. I am working on my battery powered laptop to post this.
I was working in an apartment building, and I had the power off to do the work. I was not aware the power was out, so when I turned the panel back on nothing worked :D

Pierre
 
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bill addiss

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Central Long Island here.

I know some people that had to walk across a bridge to get out of NYC because Trains were out and still hadn't gotten home yet 4 hours later.

I was in a Hospital this afternoon becoming a Grandpa for the first time when the lights went out. Hallway and Emergency Exit lighting came on within 10 - 15 seconds. I was surprised to see that there was no emergency lighting in the Bathrooms??

I saw some small area with power on about 8:15pm and power at the house just came on @ 9:30pm but there's still a lot out at 10pm.

Bill

[ August 14, 2003, 10:09 PM: Message edited by: bill addiss ]
 
al hildenbrand

al hildenbrand

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Congradulations ! ! ! Grandpa :D

The area covered by this outage is truly impressive. . .

I wonder how the cascade was accomplished this time.
 
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bill addiss

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Congradulations ! ! ! Grandpa
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Thanks Al!
I might be tempted to post a picture, But there's no where to put it yet!! :)
Bill

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hurk27

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Portage, Indiana NEC: 2008
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Bill congrat's
I was on the island when the 65 blackout hit. I was about 7 staying with my sister in Patchgue on rose Ave her and her husband had a Italian restaurant there too but I think that was at a latter date. do you know a don Dernoudy he was a architect with New york city
 
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bill addiss

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Thanks hurk!

I'm only about 5 miles away from Patchogue now.
In '65 I lived in Commack, about 15 - 20 mi away. I still remember something of the Blackout but don't remember how long it lasted.

Sorry, but I don't know Don. :)

Bill
 
iwire

iwire

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Originally posted by bill addiss:
I was in a Hospital this afternoon becoming a Grandpa for the first time
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Congradulations Bill!
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roger

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My congradulations too Bill. :)

Roger
 
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bill addiss

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Thanks Guys! :D

hurk,
I don't know Tom either.

Bob,
Thanks for the Smiley Party!

Roger, Pierre,
Thanks, It was an Experience. A looong one!
PS, I'm not feeling like a Gramps yet,
so nix that stuff, OK?
;)

Bill
 
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ronaldrc

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Tennessee
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This is just my laymen electrician view of what happen yesterday.

Critize away.

Am I missing some thing here I was watching Fox news and they are trying to make a political issue out of this power outage.

Charlie, or one of the power engineers whats your thoughts here am I all wrong? Wasn't the biggest problem here trying to get everything back up and running after they made the repairs.

No indicators no blackout of brownouts everything working no low voltage so the KW capacity must be there and working fine as a unit with all the generator plants working as a team.

Could this have been a switching problem?
Where the grid is all tied together and if they loose power from one location they draw off another location? And these connections are still in place when trying to restore power?

Maybe all these emergency taps are not coordinatied between the individual generating plants. And with the loss of one major transmission line put to much load on the remaining plants.Causing a chain reaction of failures?

This being a grid might have been the problem.
If we would have had separate power plants for a given area you know we wouldn't have had millions of people without power.

If we are going to keep the grid system shouldn't we have automatic switching system thats disconnects the emerengy taps between the groups of power plants that are tied together?

This way when they fire a individual plant back up it will be just suppling the power that this one power plant is capable of suppling without being overloaded?

Ronald :)

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frenchelectrican

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Nord'est Wisconsin et Paris France
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ok one thing that i heard on the news but i have power plants on my listing and the great black out did affect about 100 power plants including nuclers units and the majority of plants are "base load" and few other are variable loads plants what they do is load the all the hevey transmmion line near capaticy and it do act like load bank or capaitor ( holding charge in line) and if any one of large breaker trip for some reason it will affect other plant near by responding by increase the generator output some degrees but not a whole alot but they have electronic montioring system so they can catch some probem before it will affect the generators system i know most 215 KV line are near max load now but any surge or dip can trip the breaker fast but to reset it will take time to get back on line and there are alot other stuff along there but i will save the chatting for now until other members want to know more detail then i can expain more about it


merci marc
 
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bill addiss

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Ronald,

I think Charlie's on Vacation somewhere for a bit, maybe he can provide some info when he gets back.

The explanation I heard on the Radio was very general in nature, but basically that they have learned something from past instances when things went down. It continued to explain that the present system is meant to shut down before damage can occur, which means faster recovery once the problem is diagnosed.

Bill
 
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ronaldrc

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Tennessee
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Thanks Bill

By the Congratulations on your Grand Son.I have two children a boy and a girl and five grand children. Theres nothing in the world that can replace the joy that having a family and childern.

Ronald :)
 
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