Price of pvc

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Fairly recently. I noticed it too. PVC is tied to the price of oil which has been rising recently. The truck driver shortage is not helping with transportation costs especially into the northeast where we are at the end of the run for everything.
 
Fulthrotl said:
iirc, most of it comes from the gulf coast.

now, the PVC ingredients.... you'd have to find out where those came from....

i know that GRC conduit went up 40% overnight. three guesses why....
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i was curious, so i called the owner of my wholesale house.

steel and aluminum pipe, flex, strut, etc. has doubled in price in the last 30 days.
so has aluminum wire.

he's being limited to the amounts of those items ordered this time last year,
to prevent hoarding.

all this due to tariffs.

the PVC is 'cause we left an agreement in the middle east. there is a 2 million barrel
a day shortfall approaching when reserves dry up.

now, the next 200 billion in tariffs includes everything LED. we don't have anything
near enough domestic production. expect to see non available in 90 days.

right now, jobs such as schools are sitting without orders being placed for them.
contractors with 4 month old bids are stupid level upside down, and are trying to
figure out if they can rebid them to reflect the costs, or surrender them.

wholesale material purchases are off 30%.

honestly, i'd expect a red button full stop on most everything by october.
the ripple effect is going to be yuge.
 
Fulthrotl said:
i was curious, so i called the owner of my wholesale house.

steel and aluminum pipe, flex, strut, etc. has doubled in price in the last 30 days.
so has aluminum wire.

he's being limited to the amounts of those items ordered this time last year,
to prevent hoarding.

all this due to tariffs.

the PVC is 'cause we left an agreement in the middle east. there is a 2 million barrel
a day shortfall approaching when reserves dry up.

now, the next 200 billion in tariffs includes everything LED. we don't have anything
near enough domestic production. expect to see non available in 90 days.

right now, jobs such as schools are sitting without orders being placed for them.
contractors with 4 month old bids are stupid level upside down, and are trying to
figure out if they can rebid them to reflect the costs, or surrender them.

wholesale material purchases are off 30%.

honestly, i'd expect a red button full stop on most everything by october.
the ripple effect is going to be yuge.
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Wow. That's horribly....depressing. :jawdrop:
 
I'm small potatoes. But even I was horrified that I paid $40 for a bundle of 1/2" EMT from the supply house. Never thought I would see EMT cost that much. When I started in the trade it was 1.00 a piece and I'm sure some guys here can remember when it was a lot less than that.
 
Fulthrotl said:
i was curious, so i called the owner of my wholesale house.

steel and aluminum pipe, flex, strut, etc. has doubled in price in the last 30 days.
so has aluminum wire.
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I havnt seen prices go up that much. I just bought some 4/0 urd today and it was 1.56 - even cheaper than I remembered. I thought the 2" pvc was 6.50 last I remembered, paid high 8's today. Noticed 1/2 emt was around $4 at big orange, iirc it was $2.50 not too long ago. You know how time flies though, some of my price memories could br several years old...

I priced a 400A 480 panelboard with 36 poles of breakers and it was around $1800, $90 more than a near identical one I got 2 years ago. Gear guy said siemens had a price increase recently.
 
Fulthrotl said:
i was curious, so i called the owner of my wholesale house.

steel and aluminum pipe, flex, strut, etc. has doubled in price in the last 30 days.
so has aluminum wire.

he's being limited to the amounts of those items ordered this time last year,
to prevent hoarding.

all this due to tariffs.

the PVC is 'cause we left an agreement in the middle east. there is a 2 million barrel
a day shortfall approaching when reserves dry up.

now, the next 200 billion in tariffs includes everything LED. we don't have anything
near enough domestic production. expect to see non available in 90 days.

right now, jobs such as schools are sitting without orders being placed for them.
contractors with 4 month old bids are stupid level upside down, and are trying to
figure out if they can rebid them to reflect the costs, or surrender them.

wholesale material purchases are off 30%.

honestly, i'd expect a red button full stop on most everything by october.
the ripple effect is going to be yuge.
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It is not "all due to tariffs" and I would appreciate it if the moderators stop this obvious attempt to denigrate and blame one political view as this site is supposed to be politics free.
 
Like a camel farts and the price of fuel goes up the next day; yet to go down takes a year.
 
But, how much of the rebar cost is due to politics and how much is due to local demand and increased transport costs...
rebar in Jamaica ran around 90,000 per ton on average for over eight years... not sure this years price, but for the normal 1/2 inch rebar that means 3750 per barat 24 bars per ton... or around 37.50 USA price... way more expensive than the USA price...
but, we have to buy it in USA, ship it to Jamaica, pay taxes at wharf for what we bought it for plus shipping, plus taxes on taxes... then ship it on the island..lol...
so prices are relative. Costs are much cheaper in USA than in many other places, yet pay in many of those other places is far below what Americans are paid.
not politics, just facts.
 
Adamjamma said:
But, how much of the rebar cost is due to politics and how much is due to local demand and increased transport costs...
rebar in Jamaica ran around 90,000 per ton on average for over eight years... not sure this years price, but for the normal 1/2 inch rebar that means 3750 per barat 24 bars per ton... or around 37.50 USA price... way more expensive than the USA price...
but, we have to buy it in USA, ship it to Jamaica, pay taxes at wharf for what we bought it for plus shipping, plus taxes on taxes... then ship it on the island..lol...
so prices are relative. Costs are much cheaper in USA than in many other places, yet pay in many of those other places is far below what Americans are paid.
not politics, just facts.
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Yeah there is certainly some inflation in there, but not most of it.
 
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