Protected device labels

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electricalist said:
If I use dual function breakers for all the 120 v circuits will I need to put the GFCI protected stickers on all the devices?
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I wouldn't think so but they may want stickers on receptacles that are required to be GFCI protected.

I have had to place these stickers on exterior receptacles or on the covers where they could be seen.
 
No sir. With a GFCI it comes with stickers, no equipment ground GFCI protected outlet.
In the past I have had inspectors tell me all the devices protected need to be labeled.
Now that we use dual function breakers I thought I might have to put a label on something.
 
growler said:
I wouldn't think so but they may want stickers on receptacles that are required to be GFCI protected.

I have had to place these stickers on exterior receptacles or on the covers where they could be seen.
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Exactly. You jogged my memory and you stated it the same way. On all the devices that need to be protected.
I was thinking about putting a label on the panel that says all 120 v 20 amp 1 pole breakers , GFCI/AFCI protected
 
Nobody has asked I just wanted to be sure.
I’m filling in for one oof our guys who had to take off for family stuff.
They were on the last 16 of 64 apt. When I came so I was double checking things.
 
GFCI protected receptacles do not require stickers, just GFCI protection. The no equipment ground stickers is for a different application.
 
Probably one of those follow the installation instructions situations in the inspection s eyes and they come with stickers so you should use them I guess.
 
MC cable comes with anti-short bushings but you're not required to use them either. :D
 
electricalist said:
Probably one of those follow the installation instructions situations in the inspection s eyes and they come with stickers so you should use them I guess.
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GFCI receptacles come with said stickers, and they may be able to make you use them if the instructions say so - GFCI breakers don't come with those stickers.

IMO such stickers, including the "no equipment ground" mean nothing to the occupant, unless they are an electrical professional, you could put a label on there you could be injured or killed of you contact the live conductors and they would still be ignored most of the time, those that did read them would be calling an electrician and beafraid to death of using the thing.

If there is no power at a receptacle a majority of people go to the breaker panel to see if something is tripped, my thoughts on the intent of the stickers is to tell anyone that does know what it means that they need to look elsewhere for something to reset.
 
jumper said:
I rather doubt it. That would just be a BS suggestion in the instructions and not part of the instructions that were submitted to UL for its testing and listing.
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I agree with you, have not read any instructions for any receptacles in a long time so not aware of what they may say.

I will say I have seen a lot of questionable instructions on things that do contradict general NEC requirements. Seen many things that state not to use on GFCI or AFCI protected circuits :blink: You would think there is no way such instructions are submitted for listing.
 
kwired said:
I agree with you, have not read any instructions for any receptacles in a long time so not aware of what they may say.

I will say I have seen a lot of questionable instructions on things that do contradict general NEC requirements. Seen many things that state not to use on GFCI or AFCI protected circuits :blink: You would think there is no way such instructions are submitted for listing.
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That is just the problem.

Those may not be the actuall official instructions submitted, but rather something the maker sticks in there and couches it in language that makes one think so.

Don G has talked about this type of thing before and explains it better then me.

One good example that drives me bonkers is that it seems that every gizmo on the market from small appliances to whatever wants an individual/dedicated circuit.

Is it really needed? Did the maker actually have UL only test it that way?

Is many cases I think the answer is "no" but that does not stop the maker from putting in in the instructions making it look like the listing will be voided if not done.
 
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