PVC Conduit in Garage

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MVanB

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Is PVC (Sched 40/80) an allowable conduit, according to current NEC, for surface installation within an attached residential garage space as an alternative to EMT?
If OK, In it's use for general purpose lighting and receptacle circuits, and it being NM, are the rules the same as for EMT conduit (other than the joints having to be glued)?

Mark VanBuskirk
Bay Area Inspection Services, Inc.
 

chevyx92

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VA BCH, VA
MVanB said:
Is PVC (Sched 40/80) an allowable conduit, according to current NEC, for surface installation within an attached residential garage space as an alternative to EMT?
If OK, In it's use for general purpose lighting and receptacle circuits, and it being NM, are the rules the same as for EMT conduit (other than the joints having to be glued)?

Mark VanBuskirk
Bay Area Inspection Services, Inc.

Rules?????? Article 352 is for the pvc and article 358 is for the emt. Two totally different raceways. There are codes not rules on these raceways. Your question is too vague.
 

iwire

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Jim W in Tampa said:
As a HI i hope you take into account the code year that was enforce at time it was installed.

Jim they are not code inspectors they don't have to provide a code reference or consider the year a code came in place.
 

iwire

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frizbeedog said:
What are they inspecting?

For anything an uneducated home buyer should know about the home they are considering buying.

They can put on the report that the home does not have GFCIs even if it was built before they where required.
 

frizbeedog

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Oregon
iwire said:
For anything an uneducated home buyer should know about the home they are considering buying.

They can put on the report that the home does not have GFCIs even if it was built before they where required.

FWIW I've never been impressed with home inspectors and the underwriters who regard thier opinions.
 

Jim W in Tampa

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Tampa Florida
iwire said:
For anything an uneducated home buyer should know about the home they are considering buying.

They can put on the report that the home does not have GFCIs even if it was built before they where required.
So will he put down garage wired with pvc? With that info what can they do ?I think its high time that HI back findings up with code.Otherwise all they do is slow down a closing and confused the buyer.Given that info what will they do ? Hire an electrician that knows the answers.Might cost a $100 but worth it for correct answer.Same applies to other trades.
 

iwire

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frizbeedog said:
FWIW I've never been impressed with home inspectors and the underwriters who regard thier opinions.

I have never really been impressed with lawyers but like HIs they are here to stay, so either get used to them or ignore them.:grin:
 

frizbeedog

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chevyx92 said:
Same here. I was trying to be nice in my last post. :grin:

So was I, but I guess I was a jerk? Not the first time.

In my experience I've seen home inspectors write up pages full of corrections and miss some really important hazards.

The good ones will then refer a client to a qualified electrician if they see additional hazards that are beyond thier scope of expertise.

:)
 

Jim W in Tampa

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Tampa Florida
If sales were not down so bad here i think i would become a HI.Easy work,just go look at house,take pictures and give opinion on what might be wrong.You need not be right.
 

iwire

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Location
Massachusetts
Listen up, we are not going to have thread goofing on HIs, be professional or don't post.

HIs are welcome to ask questions here. If you feel HIs should learn more about the code then this is a perfect place for them to do so.
 

frizbeedog

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Oregon
iwire said:
Listen up, we are not going to have thread goofing on HIs, be professional or don't post.

HIs are welcome to ask questions here. If you feel HIs should learn more about the code then this is a perfect place for them to do so.

Like I said. I was a jerk, and will now step aside.

My apologies to all.

:)
 

mdshunk

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Right here.
Hey, home inspectors create a lot of work for electricians. Go with the flow... it's to your benefit. If they call out otherwise legal double-taps, want to see a 60 amp service upgraded, or GFCI's added in a 1950's home, so be it. As long as someone agrees to pay for the work to be done, I don't care who "discovered" it in the first place.
 

acrwc10

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Location
CA
Occupation
Building inspector
chevyx92 said:
Then what's the difference between HI's and DIY'ers? This forum is not for DIY'ers by the forum rules. And if you're willing to let an HI learn then why not a DIY? Either you are in this trade or not. Very simple. By letting these HI's learn creates "hacks" as we refer to them and we all know we don't like "them".

That is all encompassing statement. I have seen a lot of "Very Good" home inspectors, no one ever says that because they only remember the bad ones. There is one HI that comes to mind that is a GC in my area and started doing HI's when building got slow in the area, I would regard him as one of the best home builders I have met and a highly qualified home inspector. The problem with most home inspections is they are ordered at the last minute and have the buyer, the seller, and the agents for both sides standing there expecting the results 30 seconds after the guy gets out of his vehicle. I would rather a guy come here and learn then be in the field spouting what is not code. IMHO:wink:
 
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