Out of sight, out of mind.
Generally, those that side step permits or inspections wont call those who do abide by them anyway, and, if they do call , we can just "smile and wave boys",,,
"smile and wave"....
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Out of sight, out of mind.
Generally, those that side step permits or inspections wont call those who do abide by them anyway, and, if they do call , we can just "smile and wave boys",,,
"smile and wave"....
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Mr. Serious
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Well this was almost 20 years ago so I don't remember specifics that well. Since you point that out, I think I recall it was 3 gallons of water leaking out every 10 seconds, not 3 gallons per second. Does that seem about right for a 1/2" or 3/4" line?
ptonsparky
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Sounds better.
kwired
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Is better, would probably need to be fully open ended line to be able get that rate in most common pressure situations.
gadfly56
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You can turn the pipe if there's nothing attached to the other end, otherwise you're screwing in at one end and unscrewing at the other.
kwired
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True. Bolt on hub on a meter socket or something similar you certainly could turn the pipe instead of the elbow, but if there is second elbow in the run, you going to twist conductors/cable regardless.
hillbilly1
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Had a customer this week that was wanting the service moved, he already poured the slab, but said he turned up a conduit (which was white plumbing pipe LOL!) I asked him if he used a plumbing 90 or a conduit 90? He looked puzzled, and said he didn’t know. I said we will just run it overhead!
Not if you think outside the box and start with a C condulet so you can pull the wire through after all is said and done.
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ptonsparky
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hillbilly1
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Some aren't,,,,
True. Bolt on hub on a meter socket or something similar you certainly could turn the pipe instead of the elbow, but if there is second elbow in the run, you going to twist conductors/cable regardless.
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Your service scenario was underground , so, one couldn't use a C condulet to begin with.
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kwired
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And the handyman that want's to use a plumbing ell certainly has no clue what a C condulet is nor will they be willing to spend any $$ on such a seemingly pointless thing if they are aware of them.
kwired
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hillbilly1
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I’ve seen LB’s buried too! One of our foreman stubbed out a pole base the wrong direction, and used an LB to change direction. Lightning blew out the wire at the LB, and when I dug it up because I couldn’t repull it, I found the LB.Why? I've seen T condulets buried before.
I've seen lot's of things buried that shouldn't have, but, this post has gotten way off base.
Way back in back in April of 2021,,,,,, it was originally about a service entrance.
There never was a complete picture posted of what actually was on site (which I asked for at the time and never received)
Only 2 snips of something that may not even be related to each other, so, everything is speculation.
You don't even see that rigid pipe in the first post going into a meter.
I only brought up the comment about a C condulet on an underground service entrance because one would never pass inspection in our area with any type of condulet or junction box on the line side of the meter (Buried or not) that would provide customer side access to unmetered power.
Our conduits must be without an accessible opening from the drop or padmount to the line side of the meter.
Nothing with a lid such as a C's, LB's into a meter,, J-box to extend service conductors up to the meter,,,etc....
Not a code requirement but an inspection requirement in our area.
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Way back in back in April of 2021,,,,,, it was originally about a service entrance.
There never was a complete picture posted of what actually was on site (which I asked for at the time and never received)
Only 2 snips of something that may not even be related to each other, so, everything is speculation.
You don't even see that rigid pipe in the first post going into a meter.
I only brought up the comment about a C condulet on an underground service entrance because one would never pass inspection in our area with any type of condulet or junction box on the line side of the meter (Buried or not) that would provide customer side access to unmetered power.
Our conduits must be without an accessible opening from the drop or padmount to the line side of the meter.
Nothing with a lid such as a C's, LB's into a meter,, J-box to extend service conductors up to the meter,,,etc....
Not a code requirement but an inspection requirement in our area.
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ptonsparky
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We put in a feeder to a building, emerged from the ground and LBd up to the height we wanted. Nicely strapped. Went back a few weeks later and they had moved dirt, so if any of you try to pull that feeder for some reason, there is an LB about 4' below where it turns horizontal. Call me if you have questions.Why? I've seen T condulets buried before.
You really should have left your phone number on the lid of that LB just in case we need to call you up and cuss you out for something that you didn't even do.
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kwired
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Yet the easiest access is to the exposed drop conductors
There are places here where POCO's have locks, seals, etc. on wireways, junction/pull boxes, etc. containing unmetered conductors. Much of it older installs and they generally prohibit such items on new installs.
My same thoughts also.
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