Question about conduit type could be used as asleeve at fire rated walls penteration

[mustafa]

Question about conduit type that could be used as sleeve at fire rated walls penetration. code reference please?

 

[JFletcher]

300.21. Which is pretty useless. In the past, I've used EMT sleeves for v/d/v cabling. If you dont have a lot of them to do, you may want to check into getting pre-made sleeves.

 

[mgookin]

Question about conduit type that could be used as sleeve at fire rated walls penetration. code reference please?

You have 2 questions to answer.

What can you use as a sleeve for your installation?

What is the requirement for firestopping when that sleeve is installed in a fire rated assembly?

Example: Up to a certain sized (is it 3/4"?) pvc can have a 3/8" annular space filled with firecaulk and anything over the minimum size needs a collar. You'll have to pack the sleeve with mineral wool or other approved method to prevent the transfer of gasses from one side of the wall to the other.

Sleeves are just pipe going through an assembly. When you penetrate a fire-rated assembly you have to effectively firestop it.

 

[mustafa]

You have 2 questions to answer.

What can you use as a sleeve for your installation?

What is the requirement for firestopping when that sleeve is installed in a fire rated assembly?

Example: Up to a certain sized (is it 3/4"?) pvc can have a 3/8" annular space filled with firecaulk and anything over the minimum size needs a collar. You'll have to pack the sleeve with mineral wool or other approved method to prevent the transfer of gasses from one side of the wall to the other.

Sleeves are just pipe going through an assembly. When you penetrate a fire-rated assembly you have to effectively firestop it.

Any code references for that?

 

[LIM]

You have 2 questions to answer.

What can you use as a sleeve for your installation?

What is the requirement for firestopping when that sleeve is installed in a fire rated assembly?

Example: Up to a certain sized (is it 3/4"?) pvc can have a 3/8" annular space filled with firecaulk and anything over the minimum size needs a collar. You'll have to pack the sleeve with mineral wool or other approved method to prevent the transfer of gasses from one side of the wall to the other.

Sleeves are just pipe going through an assembly. When you penetrate a fire-rated assembly you have to effectively firestop it.

I agree, but the method you use to sleeve the pipe must be part of the assembly. The listing will tell what type of material may be used for the sleeve. Its all in the listing. There are thousands of different listings.

 

[luckylerado]

Any code references for that?

This is addressed in section 714 of the IBC and also the literature on the fire stop system that you are using.

 

[steve66]

Fire Rated Assemblies are cataloged here:

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/fireressrch.html

Its a nightmare to navigate, even when you have the printed books. You have to find the exact wall assembly you have, and then find your type of penetration.

Just as an example, search for W-L-1054. That would not allow PVC conduit.

 

[mustafa]

Fire Rated Assemblies are cataloged here:

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/fireressrch.html

Its a nightmare to navigate, even when you have the printed books. You have to find the exact wall assembly you have, and then find your type of penetration.

Just as an example, search for W-L-1054. That would not allow PVC conduit.

Thank you for your detailed reply.

 

[mustafa]

i found this UL test which accept non metallic pipes for fire wall penetration


http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/...n=versionless&parent_id=1073995580&sequence=1