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MJW

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Just wondering what your requirements for residential receptacle spacing are? I am spending a couple of days in Whistler BC and went to plug in my laptop last night and didn't see any receptacles in the expected locations. I looked around and the bedroom only has 3 receptacles. This is a fairly new stand alone house. As I was crawling behind the nightstand to find a receptacle I gained new appreciation for the 6' rule.
 
Thanks Whillis. Any more education you cou shed upon us to the CEC that is common in Canada, but not US of A...things like sideways services, and 346/600? Always looking to expand the horizons....
 
Take this with a grain of salt because I'm not all that familiar with the NEC:

My understanding is that, for the most part, the NEC and CEC have been harmonized on standard trace practices like conduit fill, ampacities of wire, service entrance, outlet spacing, etc so we work pretty much like you do.

As for the different voltages, I believe that most of that is due to regional history. For example, in the relatively new western provinces our single phase voltage is typically 120/240 and the 3 phase is 120/208 for commercial and high density residential, 277/480 for large lighting loads, or 346/600 for heavy commercial and industrial. Out east in the older provinces where the manufacturing history is more entwined with the US there is much less of the 600V stuff because 480V is what they grew up on.

Beyond the basics, some of the other things I can think of are that we don't have to use TR receptacles (yet), there are special consideration for services in northern areas to avoid condensation, and UV stable pigments in exposed wire insulation is a must. Oh, and nobody really cares if an outlet is ground up or ground down.:wink:

Just out of curiosity, how do you define a sideways service?
 
whillis said:
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As for the different voltages, I believe that most of that is due to regional history. For example, in the relatively new western provinces our single phase voltage is typically 120/240 and the 3 phase is 120/208 for commercial and high density residential, 277/480 for large lighting loads, or 346/600 for heavy commercial and industrial. Out east in the older provinces where the manufacturing history is more entwined with the US there is much less of the 600V stuff because 480V is what they grew up on.

We'd have 346/600 for heavy commercial/industrial too IF we still manufactured anything...
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Just out of curiosity, how do you define a sideways service?

Don't make me tell you. :grin:
 
Thanks for the info whillis. I looked around the house and my bedroom seems to be the only room they scimped on receptacles. I?m not going to complain though; this is some of the most beautiful country I have ever seen.
 
Back from Mike Holt's seminar...

Sideways service, as I've heard it from a couple that I worked with from Canada, is a service not mounted vertically. It is twisted 90 degrees changing the orientaion of breakers so that down position isn't neccesarily off.

They might have been pulling my leg, but they never let on if they were.

Seems somewhat unsafe as the NEC says that Breakers have to be on if up, as per NEC 240.81

240.43 was extremely interesting - Enclosures for overcurrent devices shall be mounted in a vertical position unless that is shown to be impractical. Circuit breaker enclosures shall be permitted to be installed horizontally where the circuit breaker is installed in accordance with 240.81. listed busway plu-in units shall be permitted to be mounted in orientation corresponding to the busway mounting position.

Learn something every day!
 
MJW said:
Thanks for the info whillis. I looked around the house and my bedroom seems to be the only room they scimped on receptacles. I?m not going to complain though; this is some of the most beautiful country I have ever seen.
You picked a great time to visit BC. The weather has been incredible over the last couple weeks save for a couple days of rain. We've done about 500 rounds of golf since Saturday.
 
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