Question for Electrical Inspectors

I've used P&S and the Smartbox they both have metal bracket that actually supports the fan. The plastic is just the enclosure for the conductors

I use the P & S quite often, has fair amount of volume for conductors, though most cases I am only entering with a single cable.
My goto is either the metal homedepot one for barhangers or the carlon or allied saddle plastic box. The PnS one was always to expensive at my supply house.
 
When that happens to me I always think (and sometimes say) "why'd you ask if you didn't want my answer? "
Yeah, I got a cousin that likes to do his own wiring, but his wife doesn’t trust his wiring, and will not let him energize it until after I look at it. He built a new living room addition to his house, not very big, about 12x16. He wanted two ceiling fans, each on its own 20 amp circuit, with a switch for each on opposite sides of the door. Why? He thought two fans would be too much on a 20 amp circuit! He kept arguing with me about just using one circuit, and put both switches on the same side of the door. Easier to do, less wire, and oh! He wanted to use a couple of used plastic boxes to hang the fans from! Haven’t been back, though he calls twice a week wanting me to come back. That’s another reason why I hate residential. If he wasn’t kin, I would have turned him down at the beginning! Hoping he will get the hint and call somebody else. His sister’s husband is an HVAC guy, and he will not answer the phone for any of his in-laws calls (five brother in-laws, and three sister in-laws)
 
The first box:
Phillips-head screws (#10-32 x 3 inch) mount the fan or fixture directly to the metal bracket.

The second box seems sketchy.
The non metallic box is supporting the fan/fixture and the holes are only 8-32. I have never seen any fan box that uses 8-32 screws. Most are 10-32 and occasionally 10-24.
I have seen one box that used 8-32's, black ones that came with it. Must have been tempered screws. Saw it on a shelf, didn't use it. Can't recall the brand, was nonmetallic.
 
Long time lurker here...new user. You people on here are absolutely amazing with your knowledge.

To answer the op...The jurisdiction that I worked in, required pretty detailed plans up front for plan review. This frustrated a lot of people, but also gave us a pulse as to if the person was "qualified." Once you show them the size of the book that need to comply with...some will ask "can you give me a list of electricians?" Most HO's were knowledgeable enough that we could walk through the process with them (small county)...but some of the most common things that were misunderstood/violations.

AFCI/GFCI requirements.
GES...especially the UFER!
NM cable in wet locations.
Wiring protection.
Box fill.
 
I report to a mainly industrial area. Most of the handyman/maintenance staff mishaps are of the corner cutting type. Like not installing a receptacle for equipment requiring service, wrong wire sizes for breakers, not grounding/bonding 277/480 properly, no strain relief on drop cords, and no GFI on outlets where they are required.
 
When homeowners pull permits to do their own electrical work, and you go out to their houses to inspect it, what are some of the most common things that people do wrong? Examples: Running 14/2 for SABC's, using plastic boxes for ceiling fans..

Do you ever see jobs that are so messed up that you deem that the homeowner doesn't know what he's doing, revoke the permit, then insist he hire a licensed electrician?
Please contact me about a project. Thanks
 
Carlon had a blue plastic fan rated box at Big Orange. Supply house sometimes used to have a few plastic fan boxes, Slater I think.
Don't know about the Carlon, the Slater boxes have a metallic bracket that fastens to the framing member and comes with long fan mounting screws that pass through the box and into that metal bracket - the fan isn't supported by the plastic box portion of the assembly.
 
Don't know about the Carlon, the Slater boxes have a metallic bracket that fastens to the framing member and comes with long fan mounting screws that pass through the box and into that metal bracket - the fan isn't supported by the plastic box portion of the assembly.
Come to think of it, you're right about the Slater. But I have seen the Carlon for sure. Not that I like it, I generally dislike most Carlon boxes.
 
around here I have seen inspector let homeowners get away with crap they would call us for in a heart beat. I guess since they don’t have liability….
Kinda annoying when homeowner says it passed inspection as I tell them all the mess up
 
around here I have seen inspector let homeowners get away with crap they would call us for in a heart beat. I guess since they don’t have liability….
Kinda annoying when homeowner says it passed inspection as I tell them all the mess up
Annoying yes, there are some EI that won't even go into the building and are "just gimme a check and here's your sticker". Eventually they do get caught especially when enough complaints go to the AHJ, but sad part is when someone goes in and tries to say "this is wrong and needs to be fixed" the HO doesn't believe you unless there was a major failure. Now there are a lot of Home Inspectors that fail at this, and the HO wants a new light and you go in and the entire service is bad, but the HI never said anything. Got one right now that am reviewing for repair for HO that the HI did make multiple reference to have an electrician check "this" out but obviously doesn't have a clue as the report says the branch wiring is conduit, but not one stick is visible anywhere.
 
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