stickboy1375
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Cody K said:
210.52(B)(2)
Range/Microwave Circuit
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210.52(B)(2)
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Cody K said:I seen that, I guess I am stretching a bit when I would say a receptacle in a cabinet above microwave would be considered a wall receptacle or a countertop receptacle.210.52 B 1
Yes you are stretching it esp. since a counter receptacle can't be more than 20" above the counter.
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Cody K said:I seen that, I guess I am stretching a bit when I would say a receptacle in a cabinet above microwave would be considered a wall receptacle or a countertop receptacle.
If the micro is fastened in place it would require it's own branch circuit since it would likely exceed the 50% rule, so it wouldn't matter if it were permitted on a SABC or not.
infinity said:
I guess the point I was getting to is what Dennis mentioned earlier. If you took that microwave and set it on the kitchen counter and plugged it in there everything would be fine. If a receptacle was installed for only the micro in a cabinet, what would be the difference, nothing.
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Cody K said:
I agree but we didn't make the rule we just try to interpret & read them and sometimes even abide by them.:wink:
stickboy1375
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Cody K said:
The difference is the micro on the counter might not exist... that is the difference...
electricmanscott
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In this case this is an over the range micro. Having never seen one of these without a ventallation system as part of the unit, and being that thay are cord and plug connected, the only option is a 20 amp individual branch circuit to feed the receptacle needed to power this thing.
I still haven't decided what to do......
I've been busy with other things, and have been letting this problem "stew" in my brain.....kinda on the back burner.
This range and microwave are located on a outside basement (concrete block) wall.
I guess that I could mount a NEMA 4 panel on the outside wall, feed it with the 6/3 NMB and then power back thru the wall to the range and microwave.....although I may have a problem with 110.26(E) as there is a deck over this (sloped) area, and I may not have the headroom.
This seems really redundant just to meet a code [110.26(A)] that is not clear (IMO) to begin with.
I'm just venting, I understand the "intent" of the code rule, and know
what I have to do:roll: .
I've got the customer looking for a microwave that pulls less than 10 amps (120V) and that will fit the space.
If he finds one, I can put it on the 20A (dedicated) dishwasher circuit.
This is my best option.
Running a new Homerun is not a option, microwave or not.
Any thoughts?
thanks
steve
I've been busy with other things, and have been letting this problem "stew" in my brain.....kinda on the back burner.
This range and microwave are located on a outside basement (concrete block) wall.
I guess that I could mount a NEMA 4 panel on the outside wall, feed it with the 6/3 NMB and then power back thru the wall to the range and microwave.....although I may have a problem with 110.26(E) as there is a deck over this (sloped) area, and I may not have the headroom.
This seems really redundant just to meet a code [110.26(A)] that is not clear (IMO) to begin with.
I'm just venting, I understand the "intent" of the code rule, and know
what I have to do:roll: .
I've got the customer looking for a microwave that pulls less than 10 amps (120V) and that will fit the space.
If he finds one, I can put it on the 20A (dedicated) dishwasher circuit.
This is my best option.
Running a new Homerun is not a option, microwave or not.
Any thoughts?
thanks
steve
I don't have my book , so don't jump me.
Does a strict wording require the panel to be readily accesible or accesible?
Most stoves are 30" wide, Maybe he could mount the panel behind the stove?
Move the stove for access. Just thinking out loud on this one. I realize that headroom would be an issue. Unless the micro is also moved to service(panel) as well.
I realize this is not the best solution but is it possible?
Tom
Does a strict wording require the panel to be readily accesible or accesible?
Most stoves are 30" wide, Maybe he could mount the panel behind the stove?
Move the stove for access. Just thinking out loud on this one. I realize that headroom would be an issue. Unless the micro is also moved to service(panel) as well.
I realize this is not the best solution but is it possible?
Tom
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