Really bad idea #47

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Wilg said:
Those poor neutral wires....green tape wrapped on them, connected to red wire.....I bet they have an identity crisis. :?

Sad.......unfortunately too common.:blink:
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I'm not sure how you all are so certain those arent in fact EGC's that are taped Green and spliced to the red wire that lands on the neutral bar.

If this is a service panel and the Feeder Neutral actutally terminates on the neutal bar on the other side of this panel, and is bonded to the can on that side, and the insulated jumper strap that you see coming in behind this neutral bar that we are looking at, actually makes contact to this Insulated bar, and they pulled an EGC along with the feeders to the Outlets,,,,,,whewwww,,,,, those wires taped Green and spliced to the red wire with a hose clamp that land on this bar may in fact be EGC's and need to be taped green.

Looks like thats the case anyway since that's where they landed the bare grounds but there is not enough picture to verify any of this.

JAP>
 
jimdavis said:
My favorite part is the hose clamp.
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Hose clamps aren't listed for a copper to aluminum connection?? :)

BTW: I love the forums new spell check and auto correction features. I owe thanks to someone. I could never spell aluminum on the first try.
 
OK, upon closer look, those wires taped green are EGCs. I was so blinded by the terrible condition of the box that I did not notice the green tape. That box is a subpanel, the service is on the other side of the driveway, with metering and a 200 Amp Main disconnect. However, inside the distribution box, the neutral bar, the ground bar, and the box are all (incorrectly) bonded together, making it appear to be a service. On the neutral bar side, four neutrals are also tied together under one wire, same as the EGCs. And the crazy part is, this is not the worst one of the bunch. There is another box that is scorched on the inside cover, and the wiring is unbelievably screwed up.
 
kwired said:
They actually did something (at least sort of) correctly?
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It looks like everything is there,,, just maybe not all in the right places.
I'm curious as to where all the bare grounds go.....

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