Rebuilding New Orleans

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this is a good example of why you do not want to live in a highly corrupt and disfunctional city.

NYC is not a paragon of virtue, but it had the advantage of a mayor who was not in the pockets of every crook in town. and was willing to stick his own neck on the line and be a leader, rather than a whiner. I was shocked by the comments of both the mayor of NO and the governor of LA. They acted like they had no clue what had happened, no plan to do anything about it, and worse, no clue where to even start. this is not the way you lead after such an event.

When 9/11 happened, (admittedly a much lessor catastrophe) the mayor and governor took immediate charge and did what they had to do to get the situation under control. they did so at considerable political risk, but they showed a lot of spine.

I am completely unimpressed with the mayor of No and the governor of LA attempt to blame others for their own ineptness. there is plenty of time to attempt to fix blame later. Right now the people there need leadership, and they don't have it.

No matter what the feds do, it will be 3-5 days before any significant aid can get in from the outside in a case of such widespread damage. the local people have to cooperate and take care of things until outside help can arrive. that system just totally collapsed in the case of NO.
 
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petersonra said,
I am completely unimpressed with the mayor of No and the governor of LA attempt to blame others for their own ineptness. there is plenty of time to attempt to fix blame later. Right now the people there need leadership, and they don't have it.
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Excellent point, even though the difference btween the two(911 and Katrina)is the fact that the Mayor of N.O. had no way to communicate with his people and therefore coordinate rescue efforts.
 
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Under federal laws i am not sure they even can rebuild.There are laws now about elevation that they can not meet.All we can do for now is pray for the people.Once the water goes down i am sure they will evaluate what can happen.Lets hope others learn from this.If a hurricane at 175 mph heads to Tampa i will be running.Been in Fl since 73 and never seen anything as bad as the last 2 years.For now just donate what you can.They will be a long long time rebuilding
 
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I beg to differ about the ins co's having the last word. they do not insure the houses for flood, and for the most part have no outlay. For the most part they are out of the picture.

Rebuilding after flood becomes a mix of agencies and goals, but the predominant one is that the "AHJ", whatever that may be at the time, will determine the construction allowed in what parts of flood plains. As this will be a FEMA feeding frenzy, there will be rules for the funding, rules for the building heights if rebuildable at all, and probably the most affluent will be positioned to benefit as they will have the money to co-fund with FEMA.

FEMA will develop specific rules for the situation and where owners are the occupants, money will be available for repairs, but not rebuilding for the most part.

As an aside, although FEMA starts moving fast, the end result happens slow. I think that to actually accomplish much the response cannot be the typical structured and bureaucratic process. I also think that it would be appropriate for the feds to take temporary control of the "oil" industry as it is not only a tri-state disaster, it is a national emergency in the making. A "pro tem" action would be quite appropriate, especially to normalize and dissuade gaming the energy system, as was shown to happen when the opportunity arises. It may be okay to speculate, but as was pointed out, it is illegal in a disaster.

If the oil industry lets the market forces work, the ability of the area to actually accomplish the rebuilding will be severely hampered. This isn't BS, it's the real thing and business as usual won't cut it. Political sides ala rep and dem are now worthless distinctions. The new difference is going to be between those who think it should be business as usual and those who think the time has come to provide some real and effective means for coping with these types of disasters, without it being a wealth of new carpetbagging, schemes, plans, scams, and everything that doesn't work, because the method for gaming the system is well entrenched in the disaster business.

This is an opportunity for the best to step forward; let us do that, rather than let the the system fall prey to it's own inadequacies.

just my opinion, paul :) :(
 
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Originally posted by petersonra:

Right now the people there need leadership, and they don't have it.
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Bob,
I have mixed feelings about this part of your statement as well as those who make the same statement.
I agree that these people are having a hard time finding leadership from the governing bodies that they are looking too. This includes those governing bodies that are looking at other governing bodies for help.

At the risk of starting something on this forum that I know beyond a doubt that the host of this forum will agree with I feel that these people have their hope aimed in the wrong direction. If the people and the governing bodies would only take a couple of minutes to look up and have a short thought of thankfulness things would look a whole lot better.

What I am seeing is people and the governing bodies looking at the federal government and constantly asking why. It is over so why ask why? One short moment of, Thank you Lord Jesus for the blessing that you have bestowed us, our lives, families, friends and your grace. Now life looks a lot better. It is so easy to point blame and ask why but it is even easier to say thank you.

May the grace of God be with you always.
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Check out this article at Time Magazine, "Oil and High Water"

This is an interesting explanation of our sudden increase of fuel prices.

If the stats are accurate in this article America only produces 35% of the oil we consume and 25% of what we produce comes from the Gulf and Katrina shut down 92% of the Gulf oil production. So if this is correct America is only producing 12% of what we use, wow you talk about volatile! We need to come up with another fuel source.
 
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