Recep in loft/storage area of garage- GFCI?

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Just trim one, and passed as a habitable space (Non-Garage). Note: The access to the loft was thought the garage car door(s) or standard entry door. Stationary stairs.
 
mgookin said:
Imagine having the above argument in front of a jury where all these "experts" are trying to convince them what the requirement is.

If you put in the GFCI, you have no liability on the issue of whether or not you followed code in that regard.
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I felt the "Dead kid in the attic" comment was out of line regardless of what point was trying to be made.


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jap said:
I felt the "Dead kid in the attic" comment was out of line regardless of what point was trying to be made.


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And if this loft is constructed of wood or other insulating material - that electrocution hazard is approximately the same as other areas of the home that don't require GFCI protection.
 
jumper said:
It was a bit dramatic for the discussion IMO also.
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If an apology is indicated then consider it delivered.

I have provided expert testimony in >100 civil cases. I have seen the worst of the worst. I won't get into graphic details but I can tell you I've personally seen many more deceased humans than anyone wants to see, and I have testified as to cause and origin on the most gruesome imaginable.

And here's my advice to anyone making a decision. If the safe side of the equation costs you $5 and the litigation will cost you $50,000, spend the $5. Profit and loss aside, you will sleep better at night.

We are all in this together.

Building codes originated 4,000+ years ago and the primary objective was, and remains, preservation of human life.

Choose well.
 
mgookin said:
If an apology is indicated then consider it delivered.

I have provided expert testimony in >100 civil cases. I have seen the worst of the worst. I won't get into graphic details but I can tell you I've personally seen many more deceased humans than anyone wants to see, and I have testified as to cause and origin on the most gruesome imaginable.

And here's my advice to anyone making a decision. If the safe side of the equation costs you $5 and the litigation will cost you $50,000, spend the $5. Profit and loss aside, you will sleep better at night.

We are all in this together.

Building codes originated 4,000+ years ago and the primary objective was, and remains, preservation of human life.

Choose well.
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Which is a much more suitable response.
Thank you for that.

Sometimes simple words hit close to home.

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