Receptacle behind fastened in place appliance

[James L]

Subzero, Frigidaire, GE and others all make refrigerators and freezers which get fastened in place and cabinet doors attached to the front. They all - every one, without exception - have a dedicated space for receptacle behind the unit

 

[AC\DC]

I see that I does state follow electrical codes for receptacle does that mean now you can't put it were picture shows lol

 

[James L]

Here's the Sharp installation instructions. sometimes there are no place in adjacent cabinets.

I'm in the middle of a kitchen remodel with that exact microwave

 

[AC\DC]

I'd say if it's fasten in place it's part of the finish so no fly on recep behind
Of course my opinion is worth as much as are dollar hahahahah

 

[AC\DC]

Does that Mico wave bolt in, if it just slide then I see no problem

 

[AC\DC]

Looking at it, it just slides in and has an anti tip back no different than a rang/stove has. That how they get past it

 

[James L]

Looking at it, it just slides in and has an anti tip back no different than a rang/stove has. That how they get past it

It gets screwed in place

 

[mtnelect]

This might help to explain.

 

[AC\DC]

This might help to explain.

That does not answer the question about receptacle just states about using flexible cord

 

[AC\DC]

It gets screwed in placeView attachment 2567006

I stand corrected.
Still would not pass around here, or maybe it would never tempted the beast

 

[letgomywago]

This might help to explain.

It doesn't say portable appliances it says just "appliances" the microwave trim kits a easily detached so it's just like having an outlet in the bottom of a low volt panel where access needs the 2 screws opened up.

 

[Sberry]

This is good timing, was just ruffing in a kitchen now. Has a dishwasher.

 

[kwired]

Yeah I guess that what it means. I never noticed that phrase before.

Ok so here is where we are at. A dishwasher has special requirements, so seems like a recep is not permitted in the dishwashers space per post #7.

But more generally, I am still not seeing s general requirement that a receptacle be accessible. Did I miss it? What about the case of the lamp in my walled in torture room?

Did not look it up, but whatever section that would prohibit burying a junction box in the wall should also apply to this. You have connections in the receptacle box, it needs to be accessible but doesn't have to be readily accessible unless in a specific situation that otherwise calls for it.

 

[Krusscher]

This is good timing, was just ruffing in a kitchen now. Has a dishwasher.

I am pretty sure we all deserve CEU credits for participating in this forum

 

[Sberry]

My code book is 2002. When was that adopted?

 

[LarryFine]

I am pretty sure we all deserve CEU credits for participating in this forum

We'd be set for life.

 

[Frank DuVal]

Why do electricians install outlets less than 12 inches off the floors for washers and dryers when you can install them 30 inches off the ground and still be hidden away?

I put the washer and dryer receptacle above the appliance! Then you can use the washer receptacle to plug in a iron (a what? ).

 

[letgomywago]

I put the washer and dryer receptacle above the appliance! Then you can use the washer receptacle to plug in a iron (a what? ).

I do 32 to top for dryer always it leaves room for the recessed in dryer vents and room for plumbing if running through there too.

 

[PCBelarge]

A little late to the party.

Has anyone since this thread looked at the 2023 NEC definition of "fastened-in-place?"

Fastened-n-place. Mounting means of equipment in which the fastening means are specifically designed to
permitted removal without the use of a tool.

 

[Choice_Gorilla]

This might help to explain.

Does this section apply to equipment supplied by the manufacturer? I know it’s a flexible cord, you know it’s a flexible cord, but does the code section apply since it came part of a listed assembly? A lot of times they don’t have any markings on them like a flexible cord I bought at the supply house would. Generally curious here, not arguing with you.