Receptacle in bath room drawer

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Firestarter said:
Seems like this could be accomplished with some so cord with a strain relief connector on each end and enough slack so it don't get stressed anywhere.

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do not make the SO cord as permanent wiring -- my comment was about an extension cord
 
Since Bob made me look at Article 400, I have some questions.

Regardless of what 400.7 says, 400.4 says that all cords shall conform to the description in Table 400.4

Table 400.4 lists the uses for the approved cords. The choices are:

Portable
Portable, extra hard usage
Pendant
Elevator lighting and control
Hazardous locations
Electric vehicle charging
Portable heaters
Refrigerators and room A/C
Attached to an appliance


Where does 'receptacle in drawer' fall in the above?

A receptacle is not an appliance, BTW.
 
400.6 Markings
(A) Standard Markings. Flexible cords and cables shall be marked by means of a printed tag attached to the coil reel or carton. The tag shall contain the information required in 310.120(A). Types S, SC, SCE, SCT, SE, SEO, SEOO, SJ, SJE, SJEO, SJEOO, SJO, SJT, SJTO, SJTOO, SO, SOO, ST, STO, STOO, SEW, SEOW, SEOOW, SJEW, SJEOW, SJEOOW, SJOW, SJTW, SJTOW, SJTOOW, SOW, SOOW, STW, STOW, and STOOW flexible cords and G, G-GC, PPE, and W flexible cables shall be durably marked on the surface at intervals not exceeding 610 mm (24 in.) with the type designation, size, and number of conductors. Required markings on tags, cords, and cables shall also include the maximum operating temperature of the flexible cord or cable.
400.8 Uses Not Permitted
Unless specifically permitted in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the following:
(1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure

Device. A unit of an electrical system, other than a conductor, that carries or controls electric energy as its principal function. certainly describes fixed wiring IMO
agreed a receptacle is a device not an appliance -- appliances are not considered as part of the branch circuit
 
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400.7(A)(9) Connection of moving parts

I also wonder why one wants a phone or tablet charger in a bathroom drawer. Shaver charger maybe. I only plug mine in to charge about once a month though so still not that high of a priority to me. Other drawers I can see the want or need.

5 amp breaker does prevent using the hair dryer, but curling irons and other similar things do get hot enough to be fire hazard and do draw less then 5 amps. I wouldn't want to live in the house where someone insists on having such an item plugged while stored in a drawer.
 
kwired said:
I wouldn't want to live in the house where someone insists on having such an item plugged while stored in a drawer.
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Have the people you have lived with left hair dryers running sitting on a counter? :huh:


To each their own but I have no problem at all providing a 20 amp circuit to a moving drawer and letting personal responsibility to rule. :)
 
iwire said:
Have the people you have lived with left hair dryers running sitting on a counter? :huh:


To each their own but I have no problem at all providing a 20 amp circuit to a moving drawer and letting personal responsibility to rule. :)
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Not a hairdryer, but in years past, my daughters have left curling irons and straighteners (why do they need both???) turned on and left the house numerous times. All else being equal, I just as soon not have them in that state in a drawer that might also contain flammable materials. Some of the newer ones have an auto-shutoff feature, but not back then.

But...if the HO wants it, it's his baby and imo, code-legal.


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I recently inspected a house and found three baths each with a dedicated circuit and the receptacle on the load side of the light switch. Homeowner stated he had 3 daughters and had had too many "close calls" with curling irons, etc. left on so he requested the receptacles be wired with the lights.
 
augie47 said:
I recently inspected a house and found three baths each with a dedicated circuit and the receptacle on the load side of the light switch. Homeowner stated he had 3 daughters and had had too many "close calls" with curling irons, etc. left on so he requested the receptacles be wired with the lights.
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So much for charging your electric toothbrush....
:)

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mwm1752 said:
400.6 Markings
(A) Standard Markings. Flexible cords and cables shall be marked by means of a printed tag attached to the coil reel or carton. The tag shall contain the information required in 310.120(A). Types S, SC, SCE, SCT, SE, SEO, SEOO, SJ, SJE, SJEO, SJEOO, SJO, SJT, SJTO, SJTOO, SO, SOO, ST, STO, STOO, SEW, SEOW, SEOOW, SJEW, SJEOW, SJEOOW, SJOW, SJTW, SJTOW, SJTOOW, SOW, SOOW, STW, STOW, and STOOW flexible cords and G, G-GC, PPE, and W flexible cables shall be durably marked on the surface at intervals not exceeding 610 mm (24 in.) with the type designation, size, and number of conductors. Required markings on tags, cords, and cables shall also include the maximum operating temperature of the flexible cord or cable.
400.8 Uses Not Permitted
Unless specifically permitted in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the following:eek:
(1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure

Device. A unit of an electrical system, other than a conductor, that carries or controls electric energy as its principal function. certainly describes fixed wiring IMO
agreed a receptacle is a device not an appliance -- appliances are not considered as part of the branch circuit
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400.7 specifically allows cord for moving parts.
 
augie47 said:
I recently inspected a house and found three baths each with a dedicated circuit and the receptacle on the load side of the light switch. Homeowner stated he had 3 daughters and had had too many "close calls" with curling irons, etc. left on so he requested the receptacles be wired with the lights.
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I would be surprised if modern curling irons can start a fire.
 
I'd be wary of it without some sort safety control:

Either a simple switch that shut the receptacle off with the drawer closed, or maybe run the thing off a 15 minute timer?
 
iwire said:
Have the people you have lived with left hair dryers running sitting on a counter? :huh:


To each their own but I have no problem at all providing a 20 amp circuit to a moving drawer and letting personal responsibility to rule. :)
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My wife is very scared of having a fire, so no here hair care appliances always get unplugged, she checks the stove several times before going to bed to make sure it is not on. She will turn off the washer, dishwasher or dryer before leaving the house if they are running, but will go to bed while they are still running. I don't even say anything anymore.

But I have been in many houses while working where all that stuff is left plugged in and sitting on the counter. I don't really trust any of those items to be left unattended while plugged in, they are very poorly made in other countries, and the fact their primary function is to make heat....

I just realized you asked if the hair dryer is running, I can't recall ever running into someone that lazy, but if they were I imagine they wouldn't waste any effort drying their hair so it still won't happen:p
 
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