Receptacle pigtails

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Hey guys,
Please give me an article that describes requirement for "pigtailing" cables passing through a box before connecting to a receptacle. Thanks
 
dustindpc said:
Hey guys,
Please give me an article that describes requirement for "pig tailing" cables passing through a box before connecting to a receptacle. Thanks
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The NEC never requires pig-tailing the ungrounded conductors

The NEC always requires pig-tailing the grounding conductor 250.148(B) 2005

The NEC sometimes requires pig-tailing the grounded conductor. 300.13(B) 2005
 
iwire said:
The NEC never requires pig-tailing the ungrounded conductors

The NEC always requires pig-tailing the grounding conductor 250.148(B) 2005

The NEC sometimes requires pig-tailing the grounded conductor. 300.13(B) 2005
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Well said, I don't think I have heard it put so simply before.:)

Chris
 
I meant what Bob said. :wink:

Let me add, I have never seen a requiremnt to pigtail cables in any case.
 
raider1 said:
Well said, I don't think I have heard it put so simply before.:)
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Thanks Chris. :smile: I have really been trying to go the 'less is more' route.

Do you remember the late Bennie Palmer?

He could sometimes convey more information in a single sentence then many of us can in a long paragraph. :cool:
 
iwire said:
Thanks Chris. :smile: I have really been trying to go the 'less is more' route.

Do you remember the late Bennie Palmer?

He could sometimes convey more information in a single sentence then many of us can in a long paragraph. :cool:
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Bennie Palmer was before my time here, so I didn't get to read any of his posts.

I have a hard time arranging my thoughts into a coherent sentence most of the time, so I usually just ramble on with my posts.:D

Chris
 
Sorry, Bob, but I don?t agree.
iwire said:
The NEC always requires pig-tailing the grounding conductor 250.148(B) 2005
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The NEC never requires pig-tailing the grounding conductor. 250.148(B) 2005.
iwire said:
The NEC sometimes requires pig-tailing the grounded conductor. 300.13(B) 2005
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The NEC never requires pig-tailing the grounded conductor. 300.13(B) 2005.

I offered this same opinion on another thread. See post #14:
http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?p=775478#post775478

 
charlie b said:
Sorry, Bob, but I don’t agree.
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No need to be sorry, your entitled to be mistaken. :grin: ;)

Do you have an official definition of pigtail?

It happens the very method I have come up with to comply with those code sections without using a wire nut I also call a pigtail. :wink:
 
Oink, oink?

Oink, oink?

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charlie b said:
I offered this same opinion on another thread. See post #14:
http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?p=775478#post775478

charlie b said:
insulation stripped off a half inch or so of wire in the middle of the run, the bare wire bent into a semi-circle, and that semi-circle of wire placed under the screw on the side of the receptacle.
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I often will use this method. I never thought about what it is called. If we don't call it "pigtailing" what is it called?
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iwire said:
No need to be sorry, your entitled to be mistaken. :grin: ;)

Do you have an official definition of pigtail?

It happens the very method I have come up with to comply with those code sections without using a wire nut I also call a pigtail. :wink:
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I have to agree with Bob, I think Charlie is WAY stretching for his reasoning... sorry if I cant stop laughing after Bob's reply...:grin:
 
Dave_B said:
I often will use this method. I never thought about what it is called. If we don't call it "pigtailing" what is it called?
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How about 'looping'? I almost never do it with one exception: the EGC in a box with multiple switches. I use one long bare that loops from switch to switch.

It seems to reduce the likelihood of accidental hot-to-EGC contact, but I prefer using pigtails for the ungrounded conductors' connections to the line side of switches.
 
iwire said:
The NEC sometimes requires pig-tailing the grounded conductor. 300.13(B) 2005
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Bob why do you use the word "sometimes".

It appears to me you would have to "pigtail" or "loop" as Charlie described in order to meet 300.13(B) 2005. Are there other methods?

Tim
 
SmithBuilt said:
Bob why do you use the word "sometimes".

It appears to me you would have to "pigtail" or "loop" as Charlie described in order to meet 300.13(B) 2005. Are there other methods?

Tim
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300.13(B) 2005 only applies to multiwire branch circuits.
 
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