Receptacle Spacing

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Larry Kuebel

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We are roughing in a new custom home and the customer and architect are adamant about not having plugs in a couple of locations that are required by NEC. Can they sign a waiver or anything that would allow us to protect ourselves from a code violation and give them what they want?
 
Not where I have worked, the code is the code.

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Not that I know of either. You, as the electrician (and if you are working where there are no inspections required) are the person in authority. Even cities are responsible for any variations from the NEC. I often do work where there are no inspections and if the owner wants to vary from the code, I tell the general contractor, NO !
 
Had a GC put a huge window over a kitchen sink so big that you couldn't get the required recepts within the two feet of a sink. I kept tossing out suggestions and he kept saying that he couldn't do that. I finally told him that I thought he had "can't" mixed up with "won't" and I told him that he "will". He told me that the customers wanted the window like that and I explained that there was no code saying the window had to be like that, but there was a code on receptacle spacing.

Residential is pretty easy as far as knowing what you need, and it was known before the plans were drawn and it should have been known at plan check and it's great that the EC knows it.
 
Install per the NEC and run a single cable to each questionable location. Let the GC, architect or homeowner remove them when you're inspected and gone.
 
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Install per the NEC and run a single cable to each questionable location. Let the GC, architect or homeowner remove them when you're inspected and gone.
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If you go that far and the device has to be installed prior to final inspection, they've probably already decided they had to have it and wont take it out after the fact.

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If you go that far and the device has to be installed prior to final inspection, they've probably already decided they had to have it and wont take it out after the fact.

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You could be right but who knows. By using only one cable to feed these questionable receptacles that cable can be killed and the box buried if someone was so inclined.
 
Larry Kuebel said:
We are roughing in a new custom home and the customer and architect are adamant about not having plugs in a couple of locations that are required by NEC. Can they sign a waiver or anything that would allow us to protect ourselves from a code violation and give them what they want?
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In many (maybe most) jurisdictions there is a process by which you can request a variance to the code. They are not real common but they are occasionally granted. You might ask the GC to fill out the form and submit it and see what happens. If the GC or HO has even a little bit of clout it might well get approved.
 
infinity said:
You could be right but who knows. By using only one cable to feed these questionable receptacles that cable can be killed and the box buried if someone was so inclined.
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That's good thinking.

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infinity said:
You could be right but who knows. By using only one cable to feed these questionable receptacles that cable can be killed and the box buried if someone was so inclined.
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Now go to Cowboyjwc's post and with the large window preventing receptacles above the counter - one option is pop-up's, but nobody wants to put them in a stone countertop and then take them out after inspection:happyno:

Personally I don't know I want a window like that right down to the counter and behind the sink, seems would be easy to splash water on the window.

Nothing in code would prohibit using construction adhesive to fasten a wiremold box to the glass within the 2 foot required distance from the sink though;)
 
Larry Kuebel said:
We are roughing in a new custom home and the customer and architect are adamant about not having plugs in a couple of locations that are required by NEC.
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These people obviously can't see the beauty of receptacles. They have no taste. Receptacles are little works of art. :roll: If I were French, I would make dismissive facial expressions.
 
Can they sign a waiver or anything that would allow us to protect ourselves from a code violation and give them what they want?[/QUOTE said:
In Washington you can apply for a variance, you are paying for a no in nearly all cases.
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