Receptacle with USB

[FionaZuppa]

most of my charging is overnight so slow or fast really does not make much difference.

Then save the port pins from insertion wear, use a charge pad.

 

[FionaZuppa]

Apple has changed the charging ports on iPads from the crappy lightning port to USB-C although the iPhones haven't changed. The USB-C connection is far superior to Lightning; on my iPhone the connector has to be positioned "just so" for charging to happen, and often after I walk away it stops. I solved the problem by adding a spare battery charging case; it still has a Lightning port but it has a rubber gasket around the female connector that holds the male connector firmly in place.

On their laptops for a while they just had a pair of USB-C ports so you had to get some sort of breakout dongle to connect just about anything to the computer, but I heard that Apple has recently admitted that that was a mistake. That said, if there can be only one port (like on my iPad) I much prefer that it be USB-C.

If it supports wireless charging, use a charge pad.

 

[petersonra]

Then save the port pins from insertion wear, use a charge pad.

I have had it for two years. No sign of any problem so far.

 

[FionaZuppa]

radiant 15A Ultra-Fast Plus Power Delivery USB-C Outlet

Maximize the fast charging potential on even the latest devices with Legrand’s Ultra-Fast Plus Power Delivery USB Outlets featuring USB Type-C ports.

www.legrand.us

Link to PD type


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But they don't actually specify how they implemented the PD portion. "30w" seems like a weird # for a USB-C PD port. The Texas Instruments PD driver IC can be programmed for various PD schemes. I would prefer to take 30w via 15v2A or even 20v1.5A and not a lower voltage.

Anyways, something for me to look at. Thanks.

 

[FionaZuppa]

radiant 15A Ultra-Fast Plus Power Delivery USB-C Outlet

Maximize the fast charging potential on even the latest devices with Legrand’s Ultra-Fast Plus Power Delivery USB Outlets featuring USB Type-C ports.

www.legrand.us

Link to PD type


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But read the Q&A there. It's a dismal implementation of PD ! Does not even support 20v. Two C ports that share power! That's dismal. Legrand puts "30w" print over each port, which is misleading, and, may be a violation of the PD labeling requirements/rules.

Question:
Can it charge 2 devices at 30 watts at the same time? Or will the outlet split the watts 15w and 15w for each devices?

Answer:
Legrand Technical Support · 6 months ago
The available power delivery profiles for a single device are: 5V/3A (15W), 9V/3A (27W), or 15V/2A (30W). When two devices are connected, the power at each USB-C port defaults to 5V/3A max (15W each; total 30W).

 

[petersonra]

I am still kinda baffled as to why so many new vehicles today can basically drive themselves, yet don't have a IQ or PD C port for charging devices.

If enough customers actually wanted them, they would put them in.

 

[hbiss]

If enough customers actually wanted them, they would put them in.

Many vehicles now come with a 120V receptacle. Just plug the charger of your choice into that.

-Hal

 

[petersonra]

Many vehicles now come with a 120V receptacle. Just plug the charger of your choice into that.

-Hal

Mine has one. I have yet to use it. I do use the USB ports it comes with though.

 

[FionaZuppa]

Mine has one. I have yet to use it. I do use the USB ports it comes with though.

Check the USB-A specs, probably just 5v 15w. That's dismal.

 

[FionaZuppa]

If enough customers actually wanted them, they would put them in.

End users have not a clue. They just plug in the cable, but have no idea what 5v 15w means, or 5v 30w, of what PD 20v 100w means.
If they understood all the tech jargon they would all demand better charge ports.

 

[ggunn]

Apple is still using Lightning. They never adopted the more common USB-C.

Not quite true; my Apple iPad Pro has a USB-C port, not Lightning, and my wife's MacBook has two of them.

 

[ggunn]

End users have not a clue. They just plug in the cable, but have no idea what 5v 15w means, or 5v 30w, of what PD 20v 100w means.
If they understood all the tech jargon they would all demand better charge ports.

Not necessarily. if someone does all their charging at night what do they care how fast it is?

 

[Jraef]

This is one reason why I'm against those USB charger receptacles, most are junk. Another is that they changed the standard from USB-A to C. So now go around and change out all the A's out for C's. Then next year change them out for whatever the tech idiots will come up with next.

This is why we have plug-in chargers. When the technology changes just plug in the latest, no service call required.

-Hal

I just spent the Valentine's weekend at a nice fancy hotel in Downtown San Francisco with the missus. The bedside lamps in the room had built-in USB (A) ports, the desk had a little stand on it with a built in iPhone charging port, but it was the OLD wide iPhone connector... totally useless now. 804 rooms in that hotel with presumably 804 desks that would need to be changed out.

 

[retirede]

It could be that they didn't change all the iPads. Mine is an iPad Pro; it has the USB-C port and I've had it for nearly a year. I have a dongle for it that has (2) USB-C ports, (2) USB-A ports, (2) card readers of different sizes, and an HDMI port. All in all I like the USB-C port much better than the Lightning port that was on my last iPad.

Correct - only the Pro has USB-C.

 

[FionaZuppa]

Not necessarily. if someone does all their charging at night what do they care how fast it is?

But not everyone fills up at night.

 

[brantmacga]

But read the Q&A there. It's a dismal implementation of PD ! Does not even support 20v. Two C ports that share power! That's dismal. Legrand puts "30w" print over each port, which is misleading, and, may be a violation of the PD labeling requirements/rules.

I think you are not considering there are space constraints on how many components you can fit inside a device that must be installed inside a single gang box while still serving the primary role of being a receptacle. If you want more power, buy yourself a power brick.


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[hbiss]

804 rooms in that hotel with presumably 804 desks that would need to be changed out.

Did you leave your card with the maintenance guy?

-Hal

 

[McLintock]

Did you leave your card with the maintenance guy?

-Hal

Would be a fairly easy job, but a headache of a job. You could only work when the rooms are empty, a lot of drive time to go back, although could be a good money maker


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[Fred B]

Would be a fairly easy job, but a headache of a job. You could only work when the rooms are empty, a lot of drive time to go back, although could be a good money maker


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Empty rooms not usually an issue as rarely are they operating at 100% capacity. They will usually work it out to rotate occupancy based from work schedules. If you can calculate how many rooms can be completed per day they can usually accommodate to prevent wasted travel time. Might even give you a room to stay while it gets done.

 

[ggunn]

But not everyone fills up at night.

But a lot of people do; I do. Did you miss the "if"? Also, unless the battery is totally drained a device is typically usable while it is being charged.

I agree that faster charging is better, but I am not as outraged by slower charging as you seem to be; it's just not that big of a deal to me.