reidentify greenwire

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Twoskinsoneman said:
You are not going to believe this but here goes.
In my installations we use multiple colors for our ungrounded conductors. It is not disallowed and makes any future troubleshooting very easy. (quick identification of circuits off of the electrical prints)

Well my foreman was adding a circuit to an installation that was not on the electrical print. (He brought to my attention a missing circuit so I told him to just pick random wire numbers and colors and report them to me and I would update the prints.)

My foreman told one of our new electricians to pull some LFNC-B with "a green EGC, two white neutrals, and 3 different color hots".

Well the newbie pulled 1 green, 2 whites, 1 red, 1 black, and 1 Lt green.
I guess one spool of #12 green was was one manufacturer and one #12 green spool was from another...

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You may want to check if he is "red/green" color blind it is the most common form of color blindness there is, it would be easier to know and accommodate the situation then find out by having a live green wire.
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Twoskinsoneman said:
Thanks Chris. It wasn't where I was looking.
250.119 Identification of Equipment Grounding Conductors.
Unless required elsewhere in this Code, equipment grounding conductors shall be permitted to be bare, covered, or insulated. Individually covered or insulated equipment grounding conductors shall have a continuous outer finish that is either green or green with one or more yellow stripes except as permitted in this section. Conductors with insulation or individual covering that is green, green with one or more yellow stripes, or otherwise identified as permitted by this section shall not be used for ungrounded or grounded circuit conductors.
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Twoskin,

310.12 tells you to go to 250.119---as I mentioned in my last post. :wink:
 
Twoskinsoneman said:
You are not going to believe this but here goes.
In my installations we use multiple colors for our ungrounded conductors. It is not disallowed and makes any future troubleshooting very easy. (quick identification of circuits off of the electrical prints)

Well my foreman was adding a circuit to an installation that was not on the electrical print. (He brought to my attention a missing circuit so I told him to just pick random wire numbers and colors and report them to me and I would update the prints.)

My foreman told one of our new electricians to pull some LFNC-B with "a green EGC, two white neutals, and 3 different color hots".

Well the newbie pulled 1 green, 2 whites, 1 red, 1 black, and 1 Lt green.

I guess one spool of #12 green was was one manufacturer and one #12 green spool was from another...

The foreman asked me if we could tape it red...

I didn't think so but I hadn't come across that specific issue before. It's not very common that you have an extra green wire..

I hope this newbie comes around quick... Poor guy, caught his wife cheating the first day he worked for me. (Only came in for half day for orientation, went home early...BAM)
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Well that would answer my question.

As an inspector, while it may not be right, I might not make too much of a deal over it depending on how much trouble it would be to pull in the right color.
 
cowboyjwc said:
Well that would answer my question.

As an inspector, while it may not be right, I might not make too much of a deal over it depending on how much trouble it would be to pull in the right color.
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Well... You are right. Sometimes when a small violations is commited I spend more time torn between time lost to fix it, actual danger involved, and the internal pride at being able to create electrical systems within constrains of a large complex rule book.

Actually by the time I got back to my foreman he had already made the newbie repull it.
 
acrwc10 said:
Twoskinsoneman said:
You are not going to believe this but here goes.
In my installations we use multiple colors for our ungrounded conductors. It is not disallowed and makes any future troubleshooting very easy. (quick identification of circuits off of the electrical prints)

Well my foreman was adding a circuit to an installation that was not on the electrical print. (He brought to my attention a missing circuit so I told him to just pick random wire numbers and colors and report them to me and I would update the prints.)

My foreman told one of our new electricians to pull some LFNC-B with "a green EGC, two white neutrals, and 3 different color hots".

Well the newbie pulled 1 green, 2 whites, 1 red, 1 black, and 1 Lt green.
I guess one spool of #12 green was was one manufacturer and one #12 green spool was from another...

QUOTE]

You may want to check if he is "red/green" color blind it is the most common form of color blindness there is, it would be easier to know and accommodate the situation then find out by having a live green wire.
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That is an interesting thought. Although he didn't mention it. When asked why he did it he said lt green isn't the same color as green and the code book doesn't say anything about the color lt green. :D

It is at least clear to him now. If it happens again there could be strong evidence of some color blind issue.
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Twoskinsoneman said:
!!!! {Announcement} !!!!

"I hereby resend the thank you I gave to Chris and volley up a fresh one to Resistance"

Thank you Resistance.

:grin: :grin:
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Fine, see if I help you again. :D:D:D

Chris
 
Twoskinsoneman said:
!!!! {Announcement} !!!!

"I hereby resend the thank you I gave to Chris and volley up a fresh one to Resistance"

Thank you Resistance.

:grin: :grin:
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Now you have Washington State on your side!:wink:
 
Twoskinsoneman said:
You are not going to believe this but here goes.
In my installations we use multiple colors for our ungrounded conductors. It is not disallowed and makes any future troubleshooting very easy. (quick identification of circuits off of the electrical prints)

Well my foreman was adding a circuit to an installation that was not on the electrical print. (He brought to my attention a missing circuit so I told him to just pick random wire numbers and colors and report them to me and I would update the prints.)

My foreman told one of our new electricians to pull some LFNC-B with "a green EGC, two white neutals, and 3 different color hots".

Well the newbie pulled 1 green, 2 whites, 1 red, 1 black, and 1 Lt green.

I guess one spool of #12 green was was one manufacturer and one #12 green spool was from another...

The foreman asked me if we could tape it red...

I didn't think so but I hadn't come across that specific issue before. It's not very common that you have an extra green wire..

I hope this newbie comes around quick... Poor guy, caught his wife cheating the first day he worked for me. (Only came in for half day for orientation, went home early...BAM)
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Hope he handled the shock.Women no differant than a man,all will cheat under right conditions.We have a guy that has hard time between brown and green. Not good but otherwise he good worker.
 
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