Relocate bath recep -not 20A cct

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On another job my GC requests that I lower the msr bath receps down into the backsplash (This seems to be a growing trend...I know not why...the 'need' to 'remodel') and upon opening up the device I find that it is wired to the 15A msr bed cct...w/about 30 more openings!!...in a 2mil SFR!!
Talk about cheap wiring!..and the GFI load side went around and hit ALL the other bath receps and exterior receps! probably a total distance of..say 3-400ft to the rear lanai recep.
After discussing it with the GC he told me to put it all back together the way it was existing.:cool:
Good luck using your blow dryer maaam.
 
How old is the house?

A dedicated 20a bath circuit was first required in the 1999 NEC. And that doesn't necessarily mean the house couldn't have been built in 2000, 2001, or later to have been wired to the Code. It depends on when the '99 was adopted by the AHJ there.
 
There's some sort of fine line here that's not all that clear to me. I'd have tried hard to sell the code-correct thing, but in the end I probably wouldn't have left without moving the boxes down. I don't think the "hazard" (if you feel there is one) is enhanced in any way by having the boxes a foot lower.
 
switchleg45 said:
On another job my GC requests that I lower the msr bath receps down into the backsplash (This seems to be a growing trend...I know not why...the 'need' to 'remodel') and upon opening up the device I find that it is wired to the 15A msr bed cct...w/about 30 more openings!!...in a 2mil SFR!!
Talk about cheap wiring!..and the GFI load side went around and hit ALL the other bath receps and exterior receps! probably a total distance of..say 3-400ft to the rear lanai recep.
After discussing it with the GC he told me to put it all back together the way it was existing.:cool:
Good luck using your blow dryer maaam.
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The GC should have ask the home owners if they want it fixed.
Then he could have added %20 to your extra charge for fixing it.
 
buckofdurham said:
The GC should have ask the home owners if they want it fixed.
Then he could have added %20 to your extra charge for fixing it.
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I have noticed over time that there's a certain type of GC that wants things to appear to the customer as though everything is under control and there are no problems, even if there are. This type of GC seldom wants to "bother" the owner with potential change orders unless they're absolutely necessary. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but there are certainly many GC's like that.
 
Yeah either that or the upgrade budget gets blown on the ,.. let's say ,..the more showy things.
We are a good deal of the the time the last bite of the apple ,..

I'm doing a Kit / bath rough right ,.. so I'm laying it out and the owner ,who upgraded the cabinets and the counter top ,..says to me

"Wow,..that many plugs? huh,..geeez seems like alot of em"

ME;
yeah it does..

Him;

Two on that wall ???

Me;
Well let me see ,.. I could put one smack dab in the middle but(cut off by owner)

Him ;
lets do that then,...
 
mdshunk said:
There's some sort of fine line here that's not all that clear to me.
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The more I learn on the forum the more blurry the line gets. In a past life I would have moved the receptacle and never thought twice about it. Now I think a lot harder before doing it.
 
Marc,
Thats exactly it; he (GC) told me that same day that he had a hell of a time getting all the details of the job ironed out while riding around with the owner in her lexus between golf games. And, yes, he wants to always appear to have everything in control when often times when we start a job and walls are opened up there are all sorts of 'unknowns...' The latest? yesterday...massive mold from what else? leaking roof. Got no sympathy for em...big houses-big problems.
 
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