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mdshunk

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No more than necessary. Just the right amount I'd say.

"The National Electrical Contractor's Association (NECA) and International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) have joined forces to address the shortage of electricians predicted in the United States. The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics projects that by 2014 the national need for electrical workers will rise to more than 734,000, which is 78,000 beyond the number currently employed in the field."
 

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mdshunk said:
No more than necessary. Just the right amount I'd say.

"The National Electrical Contractor's Association (NECA) and International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) have joined forces to address the shortage of electricians predicted in the United States. The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics projects that by 2014 the national need for electrical workers will rise to more than 734,000, which is 78,000 beyond the number currently employed in the field."

It's times like these that I begin to think that you have a team of researchers all posting under the name mdshunk.

Either that or you are addicted to Red Bull. :D
 

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frizbeedog said:
It's times like these that I begin to think that you have a team of researchers all posting under the name mdshunk.

Either that or you are addicted to Red Bull. :D
No, that was an excerpt from an article I wrote last year on the future prospects for electrician employment. The future is good!
 

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bphgravity said:
I believe OSHA estimates somewhere around 680,000 or so.
Bryan, OSHA is off base if the 656,000 number given by NECA and the IBEW is correct. I have to believe that there are as many merit shop electricians as there are union electricians. If that is a true assumption, there would be around 1 to 1.3 million electricians working right now . . . well, maybe not on Saturday. :)
 

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By the way, just because I mentioned both the merit shop and the IBEW does not open the door for comments about either.
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mdshunk

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charlie said:
Obviously, the number is not correct. :-?
The number from NECA/IBEW was not membership numbers. It was an estimation of the total workmen in the trade. This is a big country, and I can see any estimation being off 50,000 or so, which seems to be the spread among all the numbers I am able to dig up.
 

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mdshunk said:
No more than necessary. Just the right amount I'd say.

"The National Electrical Contractor's Association (NECA) and International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) have joined forces to address the shortage of electricians predicted in the United States. The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics projects that by 2014 the national need for electrical workers will rise to more than 734,000, which is 78,000 beyond the number currently employed in the field."

wrong one, sorry
 
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mdshunk

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buckofdurham said:
This will be mostly large commercial shops.
Be prepaired to learn spanish. The ones that are fluent in both spanish and english will rise to the top.
What on earth makes you think this? It might be true, but at this point it sounds like a guess on your part and not based on anything statistical. I happen to think you're right, but I have absolutely nothing to base that on. I think the first contractor in every labor market that figures out how to employ and properly train Spanish speaking men can be a huge winner.
 

Buck Parrish

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mdshunk said:
What on earth makes you think this? It might be true, but at this point it sounds like a guess on your part and not based on anything statistical. I happen to think you're right, but I have absolutely nothing to base that on. I think the first contractor in every labor market that figures out how to employ and properly train Spanish speaking men can be a huge winner.

Your right , and fast.
That's why I took it off, before any body could see it.
But, If you walk on to a large commercial job in the south.
You'll see why I wrote that.
 

iwire

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I work for a large shop in the Northeast, there is really no prevailing foreign language, we have Russians, Koreans, Portuguese pretty much a United Nation of electricians.

There has been no effort on our part to learn these other languages.
 

Buck Parrish

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iwire said:
I work for a large shop in the Northeast, there is really no prevailing foreign language, we have Russians, Koreans, Portuguese pretty much a United Nation of electricians.

There has been no effort on our part to learn these other languages.

Get ready it's coming.
Back when I started even in the worst conditions we had fun. It was the comorodity. Now a young man that decides to become an electrician instead of college. It is very difficult in the south. Particuarlly at a large shop in commercial or industrial. Only because of the language barrier.
 
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Assuming 7 x (10^5) electricians in the US, so far I have calculated that it is 1/3 more dangerous to be an electrician than it is to enter a US hospital.
I'm waiting on data that will help me figure out how much safer GF devices and AFCIs have made us.
 

mdshunk

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Lxnxjxhx said:
Assuming 7 x (10^5) electricians in the US, so far I have calculated that it is 1/3 more dangerous to be an electrician than it is to enter a US hospital.
:-? You're a strange one, Mister Lxnxjxhx.

What possible value does that data have? I would hope that entering a hospital would be rather safe. Most of this stuff has been calculated already by the BLS and OSHA. OSHA has injury and death data for every job type categorized 6 ways to Sunday.
 
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