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Buck Parrish

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Probably be years before you can get any accurate data on AFCI's.
The main reason just the fact that you have a new house with a new furnace.
I am thinking these AFCI's will be helpful when somebody's gas is turned off and they are trying to heat with space heaters. That is where you can get some arcing. All these back stabbed outlets. etc...
 
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possible value does that data have?

possible value does that data have?

I have already asked for data relevant to electrical safety that we have already paid for in our taxes, from government agencies, and they have not replied.
I'm thinking the reason is that some of these issues are politically hot buttons for some revolving door people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolving_door_(politics)

If you have OSHA links I'd like to see them. You'd be surprised what conclusions can be drawn from some of this stuff after some calculations.

This kind of inquiry, using existing public records, is what got me illegally forced out of my government job. I.e., I did exactly what they said was my job, and I did it "too well". I turned over stones that others knew not to look under.
I guess I still haven't learned my lesson.

So, half my reason for this is to find out any cost/benefits for "improvements" such as GF devices and AFCIs. I already know the "costs" of AFCIs from this Forum.
The other half of my reason is to find out why data supposedly in the public record that we already paid for is sometimes very hard to come by.

Re: "You're a strange one. . ." The Myer's-Briggs test said I was "droll." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_thyself

The truth may set you free, but you won't be any happier knowing it.

I'm afraid your hope about hospitals in a vain one.
 
brian john

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Bob (Iwire). I had a 3rd year apprentice that was a soso apprentice that was offered a better job as a assistant electrical foreman because he spoke English and Spanish fluently. On some jobs (large tenant build outs) this seems to be the way. No a complaint, just stating what I see.

How many electricians work in the United States? As my old boss use to say "I employee 30 electricians at any point in time one or two might be working."

Bryan, OSHA is off base if the 656,000 number
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Government statistics wrong who would have thunk that. IMAGINE!
 
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charlie said:
Bryan, OSHA is off base if the 656,000 number given by NECA and the IBEW is correct. I have to believe that there are as many merit shop electricians as there are union electricians. If that is a true assumption, there would be around 1 to 1.3 million electricians working right now . . . well, maybe not on Saturday. :)
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Does that include the illegals?
 
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home owners are there?

home owners are there?

300 million/2.7
 
brian john

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At one point it was up around 70%
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From what little I have read and some of the talking heads on TV discussing the number of HO's was arrived at by congress pushing the quasi government agencies that back home loans to change the rules permitting some on the fringe to own homes and now the some of the paybacks are coming home to roost. Defaults on the lower end.
 
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Trying to find safety data, before and after GF devices

Trying to find safety data, before and after GF devices

This is to be read from bottom to top.

Thank you for your inquiry to CDC-INFO. In response to your request for information on deaths due to electrocutions, including deaths due to fires caused by electrical sources, we are pleased to provide you with the following relevant information.

You may be interested in the following report from the Consumer Product Safety Commission , which was produced with assistance from the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS):

Electrocutions Associated With Consumer Products (released 12/06)
Consumer Product-Related Statistics
www.cpsc.gov/library/data.html

For statistics related to fatal electrocutions in the workplace, please refer to the following:

Worker Deaths by Electrocution May 1998
A Summary of Surveillance Findings and Investigative Case Reports
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/98-131/epidemi.html

The best resource for information related to statistics associated with fires, including fire-related deaths and causes of fires is the U.S. Fire Administration:

U.S. Fire Administration
https://www.usfa.dhs.gov/statistics/


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Subject: Re: mortality rates & likelihoods
Good links!
But, specifically, for 1960 and the present, I'm looking for electrocutions
and house fires from electrical causes causing deaths.
Thanks.

Thank you for your inquiry to CDC-INFO. In response to your request for
information on the likelihood of dying by any cause ranked smallest to
largest, we are pleased to provide you with the following relevant
information.

CDC's National Center for Health Statistics provides statistical information
on death and mortality. To view this information, please visit the CDC
website:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/FASTATS/deaths.htm

WISQARS (Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System) is an
interactive database system that provides customized reports of
injury-related data. To view fatal injury reports, please visit the CDC
website:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/WISQARS/

If you are seeking information on a specific cause of death, please reply to
this e-mail and we will be happy to provide you with more information.

Dear Sir/Madam:
I'm looking for likelihoods of dying, ranked from small to large, from some
cause.
E.g., out of 300M people in the US, each year 55 get attacked by sharks,
1,000 people die [each day] from smoking related causes, 90,000 die from hospital
errors and 5,000 die from food poisoning.
Thank you.




I give up! This stuff is always around the next corner.
 
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