Resi Count out sheet

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Anybody have a spreadsheet or the like that they use for counting out device openings on Residential trim out or rough in? We do a count out by opening(sw, rec, light, fan, etc) on the rough, and again on final, anything on final that was not on rough is an extra, and usually noted as one. We currently have to write out everything, every time we do a house. If someone has a sheet they would like to share, that would be awesome.
 
I use a form that I normally buy at Staples, but sometimes at OfficeMax. It looks remarkably like an ordinary yellow legal pad.
 
I just think people can go too overboard with forms, to the point where they can be burdensome. They certainly have their place for certain things, but I just don't see this as one of them. Give me a note pad; the universal form. If I feel the need to have a certain form, you can knock one out in Excel in short order. That whole row and column thing is pretty slick for making a form.
 
brandon2177k said:
Anybody have a spreadsheet or the like that they use for counting out device openings on Residential trim out or rough in? We do a count out by opening(sw, rec, light, fan, etc) on the rough, and again on final, anything on final that was not on rough is an extra, and usually noted as one. We currently have to write out everything, every time we do a house. If someone has a sheet they would like to share, that would be awesome.
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Go spend some money. Get a system. I don?t do parts list or anything like anymore. Did it once, saved it, never again, done.

I have different set-ups for commercial, rezi or what ever. Then I dumbed the parts list down for the supply house, so they didn?t have to think, put the part number down and all. They still get it wrong??
 
mdshunk said:
I just think people can go too overboard with forms, to the point where they can be burdensome. They certainly have their place for certain things, but I just don't see this as one of them. Give me a note pad; the universal form. If I feel the need to have a certain form, you can knock one out in Excel in short order. That whole row and column thing is pretty slick for making a form.
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I remember years ago working for an outfit that required a form for everything. As a forman, I carried two full 2" ring binders full of forms. Not just several copies of the same form. Each page was a different form. I had to carry the binders so I could look up which forms I needed to order. Of course, there was a form order form.

For instance, if I needed to get a tugger on the job, there was a specific form for that. And a different one if I needed a hydraulic KO set. Never mind I probably could have used a single form for 99% of the tools needed for a job. The company just liked to kill trees, I guess.

If you really feel the urge to go that route, head down to the office supply store. They have software that can create forms for you. Create it, save it, & print it whenever you need to.
 
480sparky said:
I remember years ago working for an outfit that required a form for everything.
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Years back, I got this book called something like "Electrical Contracting Forms and Procedures" (I forget the exact name). After I read through it, I wasn't nearly as excited as when I bought the book. It would be okay if you had 1,000 guys, but not for me. Every layer of administration you add, and I fully believe forms are a layer of administration, adds cost to the job.
 
Vision Infosoft has a pretty good program It makes a small job look huge and the final sheet you give the customer looks very professional and all the customers usually say is wow that looks like a lot of work. Which is what you want them to think. I can pm my contact guy if you want his number. It wont cost you anything to talk to him.
 
Come on guys. Most of you would kick the OP to the curb if he asked about square foot pricing. But he is not, he looking for a more efficient way to do take offs. I also think that it would make calculating take offs a lot easier if there was a pre-printed tablet with a check box for each type of opening. Wish I had one to share with him, 'cause I sure would. :smile:
 
It would help me. My hieroglyphics on yellow legal tablets can only be deciphered by a electrical archaeologist. Takes me too much time to walk and count the job, and too much time to cipher my numbers. Gotta be a better way
 
Minuteman said:
It would help me. My hieroglyphics on yellow legal tablets can only be deciphered by a electrical archaeologist. Takes me too much time to walk and count the job, and too much time to cipher my numbers. Gotta be a better way
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There is- this is a voice recorder. Get into the habit of using one and you simply cannot figure out how you used to get by before you got it.
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mdshunk said:
Every layer of administration you add, and I fully believe forms are a layer of administration, adds cost to the job.
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On the other side of that note, if you add administration, or forms, to the right place, you can remove costs from other places too! Just for an example, I have a form that lists everything that has come up on correction letters, and I run through that before I print finals for a job. It does cost money to run over the plans like that, but it costs less than fixing the items if they came up as a correction letter.:roll:

As far as forms, I third (or fourth, or whatever) making one in Excel. If you have a "standard" layout you use for say, a yellow legal pad, you can transfer that to excel. If you want to get fancy, you can even add cost to an item.
 
worked for a large contractor that had a different labor code for all aspects of the job. At first I balked and told the PM that was too much for me to have to track during the week. When he told me to just get close I.E. don't try to code out a JW for his time on temporary if he just had to replace or reset a breaker, but if I had 2 JW's spend a day building a spider board and feeding it, code it out. It wasn't that hard.
 
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