Residential building code question

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Re: the recep at the front of the house, is there a height restriction?

My recep is on the ceiling of the small patio cover about 7'6" high and 18" from the door.

I just got red tagged but I wasn't on site.

Did he just not look up there and see it or does it have to be down on the wall, closer to grade?
 
There is nothing wrong with having a receptacle there, but you will still need one not more than 6 1/2 feet above grade at the front of the house. Reference 210.52(E)(1)
 
I think you should be red tagged on this one

NEC 210.52 said:
(E) Outdoor Outlets. Outdoor receptacle outlets shall be installed in accordance with (E)(1) through (E)(3). [See 210.8(A)(3).]
(1) One-Family and Two-Family Dwellings. For a one-family dwelling and each unit of a two-family dwelling that is at grade level, at least one receptacle outlet accessible while standing at grade level and located not more than 2.0 m (6? ft) above grade shall be installed at the front and back of the dwelling.
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Crap!


OK, thanks for the quick replies :)


This is MY house BTW :grin:

I've been jumping thru all kids of hoops including a court case (whick I won)trying to get it finaled.

After all that the supervisor came out himself and wrote up 3 items.

1. My water heater T and P line was terminated 4" above grade instead of 6"

2. I had no "permanent" address numbers on the house

3. No recep @ front. (my bad)
 
cowboyjwc said:
Per the code they're supposed to get piped outside, but his area is still strange:grin:
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Around here we have basements, so no big deal if the T&P operates....as long as you catch in time. But you don't know what a basement is, now do you? ;)
 
Pete I am pretty sure they would not allow us to pipe a T&P outside in our area. Fear of freeze up in the winter. If you had a small leak at the valve that could fill the outside pipe with ice.

Notice that even a T&P located on an upper floor will often just dump on the floor.

Probably not an issue for 220. :cool:
 
iwire said:
Pete I am pretty sure they would not allow us to pipe a T&P outside in our area. Fear of freeze up in the winter. If you had a small leak at the valve that could fill the outside pipe with ice.
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Good point, I really have no idea what the codes are for T&P's as that's plumber's work. ;)
 
peter d said:
Good point, I really have no idea what the codes are for T&P's as that's plumber's work. ;)
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I ask lots of questions :cool: , in our area on commercial buildings you will see the vent stack run up the inside of the building as say 2", but just before it passes through the roof they change to 4". The plumbers tell me that has to do with snow covering the top of the stack.
 
iwire said:
I ask lots of questions :cool: , in our area on commercial buildings you will see the vent stack run up the inside of the building as say 2", but just before it passes through the roof they change to 4". The plumbers tell me that has to do with snow covering the top of the stack.
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I've noticed that about the vent stacks too, now I know why. :cool:
 
A T&P pipe is supposed to go to indirect waste within the same room (i.e. floor drain or a trapped waste receptor). The waste receptor would then have to go to the outside and be protected from freeze.
 
iwire said:
I ask lots of questions :cool: , in our area on commercial buildings you will see the vent stack run up the inside of the building as say 2", but just before it passes through the roof they change to 4". The plumbers tell me that has to do with snow covering the top of the stack.
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It also has to do with frost build up on the inside of the pipe in cold climates.

Here is what the 2006 IPC has to say:

"904.2 Frost closure. Where the 97.5-percent value for outside
design temperature is 0?F (-18?C) or less, every vent extension
through a roof or wall shall be a minimum of 3 inches (76 mm)
in diameter. Any increase in the size of the vent shall be made
inside the structure a minimum of 1 foot (305 mm) below the
roof or inside the wall."

Chris
 
peter d said:
Around here we have basements, so no big deal if the T&P operates....as long as you catch in time. But you don't know what a basement is, now do you? ;)
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Actually I do. My grandparents had one and some of the best times I ever had were spent with my grandfather down there. I have no idea why we don't have them here, we're way dryer than most places that do have them.:grin:

And I did kind of figure in the freezing thing with the T&P.

If I could ever win the freakin' lottery, my wife and I want to move to Wyoming, then maybe I would understand what some of you guys are talking about. :grin: :grin:
 
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OK My 2 cents worth. Around here The T&P can be drained to within 6" of the Garage floor (WH on a 15" stand and protected from vehicular damage). Everywhere else in the house it has to be indirect drained usually that means into a drain pan placed under the WH.


Rick
 
r_merc said:
OK My 2 cents worth. Around here The T&P can be drained to within 6" of the Garage floor (WH on a 15" stand and protected from vehicular damage). Everywhere else in the house it has to be indirect drained usually that means into a drain pan placed under the WH.


Rick
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Rick,

G2408.2 of 2006 IRC says it is 18" minimum on the stand.

c2500
 
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