Residential Code Question

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infinity

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If you use Halo wafers and mounting plates the plate has two thumbscrews for mounting the driver directly to the plate. Then it becomes like a traditional recessed downlight frame. Those also work great in 2x2 and 2x4 grid ceilings where they clip right to the T-bar.
 

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If you use Halo wafers and mounting plates the plate has two thumbscrews for mounting the driver directly to the plate. Then it becomes like a traditional recessed downlight frame. Those also work great in 2x2 and 2x4 grid ceilings where they clip right to the T-bar.

If you have ceiling joist at 24" and your can is in the middle I am not sure that the cables are long enough to reach and then there would be the accessibility issue afterwards. I think they are meant to be either mounted or just laying up on the ceiling. Surely they don't expect you to frame so that the box can be supported.
 

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I think they are meant to be either mounted or just laying up on the ceiling. Surely they don't expect you to frame so that the box can be supported.
I agree laying on the ceiling is what the manufacturers are intending in their marketing, but it seems contradictory to the what the code and UL says:

314.23 Supports. Enclosures within the scope of this article
shall be supported in accordance with one or more of the provisions in 314.23(A) through (H).
314.23(C) Mounting in Finished Surfaces. An enclosure mounted
in a finished surface shall be rigidly secured thereto by clamps, anchors, or fittings identified for the application.
410.30(A) General. Luminaires and lampholders shall be securely supported.

They do offer accessories like mounting bars and extension cords:
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