Residential range rated 15kw

[TX+ MASTER#4544]

19.55kW is the demand on the service and not a branch circuit.

 

[Jaybone812]

19.55kW is the demand on the service and not a branch circuit.

Yes .
220.55 note 4
Calculating the branch circuit load for one range in Accordance with table 220.55 shall be permitted


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[bullheimer]

Dont forget the GFCI breaker.

 

[Jaybone812]

Dont forget the GFCI breaker.

If initially the range is not compatible with a gfci breaker , I’ll install a standard 2 pole breaker and run the oven for a chemical burn off, and once complete I’ve had positive results with the ranges being compatible with gfci protection . Mass added rule 11 to the mass electrical code . You submit a “gfci unwanted tripping form” to the state and inform the wiring inspector of the issue . And the branch circuit for ranges that prove to be incompatible with gfci protection can be protected by a standard 2 pole breaker (omit gfci protection )

 

[bullheimer]

never heard of that in WA. it was a brand new ckt so shouldnt have any isses with a 4 prong outlet. I got a correction last summer. The range was not present at that time.
(I do want to just note that every single new range i've seen in years has come wired for a 3 prong outlet for some reason. Then when the installers from Lowes show up they cry about 3 prong outlets needing to be changed to 4 prong!) I did net a text when the range was being installed who said my GFI breaker was tripping with the new range. I told him to remove the factory installed jumper, which he did, and the GFI breaker was happy.

 

[Jaybone812]

never heard of that in WA. it was a brand new ckt so shouldnt have any isses with a 4 prong outlet. I got a correction last summer. I haven't heard back from the customer so things must be hunky dory. I do want to just note that every single new range i've seen in years has come wired for a 3 prong outlet for some reason. Then when the installers from Lowes show up they cry about 3 prong outlets needing to be changed to 4 prong! I did net a text from a cat who said my GFI breaker was tripping on his range or dryer or whatever last month plugged into a 4 prong. I told him to remove the factory installed jumper, which he did, and the GFI breaker was happy.

The factory jumper does not have anything to do with the issue I’m referring to .rule 11 in mass is not restricted to ranges either it applies to incompatible electrical installations. And gfci comparability with ranges and has been an ongoing issue since 210.8(d)(8)and 210.8(a)(5) started requiring us to provide gfci protection for ranges regardless of their location

 

[TX+ MASTER#4544]

If initially the range is not compatible with a gfci breaker , I’ll install a standard 2 pole breaker and run the oven for a chemical burn off, and once complete I’ve had positive results with the ranges being compatible with gfci protection . Mass added rule 11 to the mass electrical code . You submit a “gfci unwanted tripping form” to the state and inform the wiring inspector of the issue . And the branch circuit for ranges that prove to be incompatible with gfci protection can be protected by a standard 2 pole breaker (omit gfci protection )

TX+MASTER#4544

Thanks ,I did not know that.
What if it's still not compatible with the GFCI?
OK, I read it.
Mass. should send that "rule" to our state department of licensing (TDLR) for an amendment to our state NEC Code.

Oh, while you're burning off the chemical residue, enough time to toss in a pizza and have a ________to celebrate victory over GFCI?

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