RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
- Thread starter tdjs
- Start date
- Status
jimwalker
Senior Member
- Location
- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Basic average openings i use 1/4 hour rough and 5 min. trim.From there you need to add material cost for where your at and wages.That number could be anywhere from $15 to $50 depending on where your at.Also can't set this number without considering ceiling height and type of walls.
Basic average openings i use 1/4 hour rough and 5 min. trim.From there you need to add material cost for where your at and wages.That number could be anywhere from $15 to $50 depending on where your at.Also can't set this number without considering ceiling height and type of walls.
charlie
Senior Member
- Location
- Indianapolis
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Interesting, I used to charge $6.00 per opening for switches and receptacles. I also charged 6.00 per overhead or wall lighting outlet plus the cost of the fixture . . . OOPS . . . luminaire. I folded my company in 1979 to save a marriage (it didn't work).
[ January 25, 2004, 11:09 PM: Message edited by: charlie ]
Interesting, I used to charge $6.00 per opening for switches and receptacles. I also charged 6.00 per overhead or wall lighting outlet plus the cost of the fixture . . . OOPS . . . luminaire. I folded my company in 1979 to save a marriage (it didn't work).
[ January 25, 2004, 11:09 PM: Message edited by: charlie ]
jimwalker
Senior Member
- Location
- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
And you lost all them $6's too.
Yes being an EC can put stress on a marriage.Been there done that ( kept wife ).Yes in about 1979 we could even usually bid a buck a foot.Most only wanted bare min. electric, 100 amps are plenty.
Kinda shows us what might happen in another 20 years.
And you lost all them $6's too.
Yes being an EC can put stress on a marriage.Been there done that ( kept wife ).Yes in about 1979 we could even usually bid a buck a foot.Most only wanted bare min. electric, 100 amps are plenty.
Kinda shows us what might happen in another 20 years.
charlie
Senior Member
- Location
- Indianapolis
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Jim, sounds like you are about as old as I am.
Jim, sounds like you are about as old as I am.
jimwalker
Senior Member
- Location
- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Charlie, not gonna say how old but will be retired in a few more years
Charlie, not gonna say how old but will be retired in a few more years
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Tdjs, this is a very good topic, anyone have a good answer??
I am bidding a house tommorow i just got the plans, id like to know who others do it
Do you bid the rough and final as 2 different jobs??
Ive asked this question a while back..didnt get a good anwser either..ive been looking for a program, couldnt find a good one.
I have been charging 25 per opening, 3 gang box, 3 openings, Any recessed lighting of course is more, electric dryer extra, stove etc...
any thoughts>?
Tdjs, this is a very good topic, anyone have a good answer??
I am bidding a house tommorow i just got the plans, id like to know who others do it
Do you bid the rough and final as 2 different jobs??
Ive asked this question a while back..didnt get a good anwser either..ive been looking for a program, couldnt find a good one.
I have been charging 25 per opening, 3 gang box, 3 openings, Any recessed lighting of course is more, electric dryer extra, stove etc...
any thoughts>?
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Nift21,my competitor is charging 18.00 for a singlepole switch,20.00 for a 3way,38.00 for smoke detectors,any one know what 100 amp,200 amp electrical services are costing in the Midwest?Would like to see the averages around the U.S.A. on prices we charge out.
Nift21,my competitor is charging 18.00 for a singlepole switch,20.00 for a 3way,38.00 for smoke detectors,any one know what 100 amp,200 amp electrical services are costing in the Midwest?Would like to see the averages around the U.S.A. on prices we charge out.
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
tdjs,
We have bid many houses by the opening and/or by the square foot untill about 2 years ago. Now we bid by materials, labor, and profit only, just like any other job.
You'll need pricing for every nut, bolt, screw, wire, wire nut, box, labor, etc that will go into the project. This process will be a little more time consuming than just counting openings and multiplying by your "per opening rate".
I'm not going to go into the whole bidding process here but I can tell you that you will be more confident with your number if you stop using a per opening or per square foot rate.
Scott
tdjs,
We have bid many houses by the opening and/or by the square foot untill about 2 years ago. Now we bid by materials, labor, and profit only, just like any other job.
You'll need pricing for every nut, bolt, screw, wire, wire nut, box, labor, etc that will go into the project. This process will be a little more time consuming than just counting openings and multiplying by your "per opening rate".
I'm not going to go into the whole bidding process here but I can tell you that you will be more confident with your number if you stop using a per opening or per square foot rate.
Scott
scott moran
Member
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
I bid at $39 per opening. Mult. gang devices are counted as individuals. Then there are extra costs for gfis, cans, dimmers, ceiling fans & controls, electric ranges, AFCI for bedrooms, a/c, hanging chandeliers, etc. The service is also and additional $1300 for a 200a underground service.
I bid at $39 per opening. Mult. gang devices are counted as individuals. Then there are extra costs for gfis, cans, dimmers, ceiling fans & controls, electric ranges, AFCI for bedrooms, a/c, hanging chandeliers, etc. The service is also and additional $1300 for a 200a underground service.
jimwalker
Senior Member
- Location
- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
By opening has worked for me.Granted a 4 gang single pole opening with 2 of them going to a fan/light is a bit high,but will offset the loss on some where you chip concrete.This is take some good with the bad.If more bad than good then adjust for that builder or job.The amount per opening is something you must work out based on labor cost and material cost for your area.And the biggest is what others are charging.If your getting at least 50 % of what you bid your ok.With some builders you might cut that price some if they are offering volume and are fast pay.And they give you 100% of there jobs.There is no way you could use the per opening price from Tampa on a job in NY.Keep track of all time and material on each house ,then raise or lower as needed.Things like height of ceiling and type of wall must be figured in.The bid from me would be total rough and trim.I try to get 70% on rough inspection bal.on final inspection.
Its because we all bid differently that there is a high and low bid.Your overhead is not the same as competition.
By opening has worked for me.Granted a 4 gang single pole opening with 2 of them going to a fan/light is a bit high,but will offset the loss on some where you chip concrete.This is take some good with the bad.If more bad than good then adjust for that builder or job.The amount per opening is something you must work out based on labor cost and material cost for your area.And the biggest is what others are charging.If your getting at least 50 % of what you bid your ok.With some builders you might cut that price some if they are offering volume and are fast pay.And they give you 100% of there jobs.There is no way you could use the per opening price from Tampa on a job in NY.Keep track of all time and material on each house ,then raise or lower as needed.Things like height of ceiling and type of wall must be figured in.The bid from me would be total rough and trim.I try to get 70% on rough inspection bal.on final inspection.
Its because we all bid differently that there is a high and low bid.Your overhead is not the same as competition.
pierre
Senior Member
- Location
- Westchester County, New York
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Here are some things to think about when bidding work.
1. How busy are you/your area?
2. Do you want to make money or a living?
3. Pay attention to the successful contractors.
If you bid a job lets say for $5000.00 and plan on walking off the job when it is finished with $750.00 profit, think of this.
Price that job at $5750.00 and you have made the profit of two jobs and only worked half the time and effort. This kind of bidding means you will need to do 1/2 the amount of work you were doing and affords you the luxury of making your business a better business.
Why is it that some guys seem to have nice trucks and good tools and others can barely scrape by? That example is the reason why.
Pierre
Here are some things to think about when bidding work.
1. How busy are you/your area?
2. Do you want to make money or a living?
3. Pay attention to the successful contractors.
If you bid a job lets say for $5000.00 and plan on walking off the job when it is finished with $750.00 profit, think of this.
Price that job at $5750.00 and you have made the profit of two jobs and only worked half the time and effort. This kind of bidding means you will need to do 1/2 the amount of work you were doing and affords you the luxury of making your business a better business.
Why is it that some guys seem to have nice trucks and good tools and others can barely scrape by? That example is the reason why.
Pierre
jimwalker
Senior Member
- Location
- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Pierre while i can't fault your math it does have 1 weak link.Should 9 out of 10 bidders on that job think near $5000 just how many of these double profit jobs will you get?Now if you have more work than your men can handle then being high bidder works.
Pierre while i can't fault your math it does have 1 weak link.Should 9 out of 10 bidders on that job think near $5000 just how many of these double profit jobs will you get?Now if you have more work than your men can handle then being high bidder works.
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
heres what i charge in chicago area:
electricalservice 200A $1.400.00
opening 110V $35.00
Opening 220V (oven,AC) $160.00
dedicated line 110V $45.00
smoke dtector $45.00
recessed light 6" $75.00
recessed light 4" $90.00
a take 15% on start 60% after rough & wiring and 25% after finish
heres what i charge in chicago area:
electricalservice 200A $1.400.00
opening 110V $35.00
Opening 220V (oven,AC) $160.00
dedicated line 110V $45.00
smoke dtector $45.00
recessed light 6" $75.00
recessed light 4" $90.00
a take 15% on start 60% after rough & wiring and 25% after finish
ceb
Senior Member
- Location
- raeford,nc
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Ok, let me through this out to you guys. Remodel job contractor need elect. to come in disconnect circuits,move recpts, replace light fixtures ect..
work two hours one day come back a day or two later work five hours, come back work three. Do what needs to be done to keep carpenters going. Working like this on a time and material basis what would you charge in your area per hour? this is a LARGE house built in 1915 but, some of the elect. was upgraded in the 70's. three floors,concrete walls and floors.
Ok, let me through this out to you guys. Remodel job contractor need elect. to come in disconnect circuits,move recpts, replace light fixtures ect..
work two hours one day come back a day or two later work five hours, come back work three. Do what needs to be done to keep carpenters going. Working like this on a time and material basis what would you charge in your area per hour? this is a LARGE house built in 1915 but, some of the elect. was upgraded in the 70's. three floors,concrete walls and floors.
jimwalker
Senior Member
- Location
- TAMPA FLORIDA
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Our prices have little to do with yours.All depends on what your area can demand and is typical.Would be sure to charge travel time and watch material real close.On jobs like this i was required to turn in a work sheet every day explaining what was done and materials used.
Our prices have little to do with yours.All depends on what your area can demand and is typical.Would be sure to charge travel time and watch material real close.On jobs like this i was required to turn in a work sheet every day explaining what was done and materials used.
ceb
Senior Member
- Location
- raeford,nc
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
Jim,old buddy, old pal why can you not answer a simple question? Yes, I know what the rate per hour is in my area I was curious as to what it would be in other areas such as yours. I know what I am charging and my mark up.
Jim,old buddy, old pal why can you not answer a simple question? Yes, I know what the rate per hour is in my area I was curious as to what it would be in other areas such as yours. I know what I am charging and my mark up.
scott moran
Member
Re: RESIDENTIAL WIRING BIDS
I am from the Chicago area. I charge $75/hour per man and material + 15%.
I am from the Chicago area. I charge $75/hour per man and material + 15%.
- Status