Restaurant floor outlets

zooby

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Indiana
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maint. electrician
My gut tells me I dont need to ask this----- Steam table in restaurant....table is fed from pedestal style floor box along with eight or nine other outets underneath it.
Should everything be gfi'd ? Nothing is now. Been like this many years. The table feed is a 2P 40A. The only info legible is -- V 208-240 W 4800-6400. The other outlets are some standard 20 circs and I think a 20 or 30 amp twist lock or two. Can gfi breakers be used instead of devices? TIA
 
As of the '17 NEC all receptacles, 150v to ground and 50 amp or less, in a commercial kitchen must be GFCI protected.
There may be some local requirement but the NEC does not make that rule retroactive.
 
As of the '17 NEC all receptacles, 150v to ground and 50 amp or less, in a commercial kitchen must be GFCI protected.
There may be some local requirement but the NEC does not make that rule retroactive.
Thanks Augie
 
As of the '17 NEC all receptacles, 150v to ground and 50 amp or less, in a commercial kitchen must be GFCI protected.
There may be some local requirement but the NEC does not make that rule retroactive.
I didn’t see where kitchen was mentioned. A steam table could be in the dining area.
 
Oh no. Not water again! That has nothing to do with the GFCI requirement. Actually, we don't know what does in this instance.

-Hal
Hal are you saying that because of the code requirements or do i have it all wrong and water was not a factor in gfi's emergence?
 
Water was a minor factor. Just the mere existence of water or moisture doesn't mean there is a shock hazard. Seems the possibility of someone coming in contact with the energized blades of a plug or contacting an energized piece of equipment was the main factor. Someone died I believe when they came in contact with an improperly grounded outdoor AC unit, and that set off a flurry of additional requirements. As it is now, the manufacturers are ramping up their lobbying of the NEC to require GFCIs almost everywhere. Makes one wonder, are they looking to increase profits without increasing safety like they have done with useless Arc Fault breakers?

-Hal
 
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