rifrickindiculous inspection dept

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I didn't know Georgia required a state electrical license.

Brantmagac
You should have told them the walls we're temporary.:D

I guess they are now any way, oh well. ;)
 
DanZ said:
I think it's more of a good cop / bad cop thing. They wanted you to see exactly what was on the line.
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maybe so. i'll say it was a lesson learned. i hate to claim ignorance, but that's what it was. I told them I wasn't purposely avoiding a permit; I really didn't think I needed one. Oh well.
 
brantmacga said:
maybe so. i'll say it was a lesson learned. i hate to claim ignorance, but that's what it was. I told them I wasn't purposely avoiding a permit; I really didn't think I needed one. Oh well.
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Its possible you didn't. They may just have made it up. Where I live, some of this kind of stuff requires no permit or inspection for mechanical work, but does for electrical. Place I used to work had to get an electrical inspection after some walls were put up to make a new conference room, but no inspection of the walls themselves was required. Same place had to get a permit and inspection to install wood paneling in the president's office though. Its sort of vague where the line is drawn.

OTOH, some locales require permits and inspections for the mobile partition type walls.
 
petersonra said:
Its possible you didn't. They may just have made it up. Where I live, some of this kind of stuff requires no permit or inspection for mechanical work, but does for electrical.
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Here is the deal on the permits. Even if you don't do a darn thing to the building or tenant space in most areas a "move in permit" is required. This lets them check such things as emergency lights ( they also check for holes in the fire wall). It's a fire & safety inspection. It's not really a big deal but many business owners try to avoid it anyway.

It's really a good idea to check with the city or county before starting any commercial work to see if there are permits required. They tend to be much nicer if you ask. If nothing else if opening a public business he will need a sign permit. I always tell prospective business owners to check and see what type of hoops they need to jump through to get their business license.

If you work things right then it cost you a few bucks and then it paint by the numbers.
 
brantmacga said:
maybe so. i'll say it was a lesson learned. i hate to claim ignorance, but that's what it was. I told them I wasn't purposely avoiding a permit; I really didn't think I needed one. Oh well.
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One of the "reasons" they want plans is in case of emergencies. It lets fire fighters and police know what to expect. Or so I've heard.:grin:
 
good point. they do seem to be more lenient after you are already there.

guy was telling me a story a few weeks ago. the building he works in started to leak through the roof so they had to get it re-roofed. no permit or inspection. but they did have to get one to reseal the parking lot. guy came out afterward to verify the size of the parking spots. turns out, there is no actual requirement to have painted lines denoting the spots, but if you do, there is a rule about what size they have to be.

a club i belonged to got some new HVAC equipment installed. no permit was required, including for the electrical work because it was considered replacement.
 
petersonra said:
good point. they do seem to be more lenient after you are already there.

guy was telling me a story a few weeks ago. the building he works in started to leak through the roof so they had to get it re-roofed. no permit or inspection. but they did have to get one to reseal the parking lot. guy came out afterward to verify the size of the parking spots. turns out, there is no actual requirement to have painted lines denoting the spots, but if you do, there is a rule about what size they have to be.

a club i belonged to got some new HVAC equipment installed. no permit was required, including for the electrical work because it was considered replacement.
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I've read the code for some cities that want you to obtain a permit prior to replacing HVAC units, repairing roofs, painting, putting in windows...unless it's an emergency, then you can do the work, and apply for a permit later. It all comes down to where you're doing the work. :cool:
 
It is getting a little ridiculous with all the necessary permits and inspections required to do anything including a residential building addition to your own house. I'm not that old and I remember getting a permit for $25 now a simple 16x20 addition cost me $350. It is simply all about the money. Gov't is handing out too much money and we need to make up the difference!
 
iwire said:
Permits are required here for roofing, siding etc.
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A construction permit is required here in NJ (see pic below)

Fences would require a "Zoning Permit".
 
brantmacga said:
my head is literally going to explode now.

situation:

I have a new store opening in 4 wks. We built two partition walls at the front to separate an area. They are free standing and tie into nothing structurally. The ceiling is acoustical tile.

My painter calls this morning and says the code compliance investigator showed up, put a stop-work order on the job and threatened him with a fine if he didn't leave immediately.

After a discussion with building dept. it seems that a permit is required to build these free-standing partition walls. Not just a permit, but I have to get an architect to draw the two partition walls on the plans, submit them for review, and wait several days for approval. Then once approved, I have to hire a licensed commercial building contractor to perform the work.

I'm trying to play nice because I have to deal with them a lot for electrical jobs, but this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. I'm on my way to the dept now for a face-to-face. I just hope they don't make me take the drywall down to inspect the construction of the wall.
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What does this have to do with electrical?
 
iwire said:
Permits are required here for roofing, siding etc.
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If you do any trenching are ground work here on a lot 2 acres or more then you now need an erosion awareness card from the Georgia soil and water conservation commission. In this state you now need to be certified to dig a ditch. It's not even a joke. :grin: :grin:

Just though I would throw that in there. ;)
 
This topic may be a little off electrical but permits are required for everything including electrical. And of course an inspection is required for EVERYTHING the part that pisses me off is the inspections are crap. Most of the time it is a 5min inspection sorry but that doesn't cut it. I've seen my local township inspector pass things electrically that never ever should pass. They don't look at the circuits sizing proper grounding or anything that would tell me its legitimate and not about the money. Don't get me wrong I think the whole inspection process is a neccessity to stop shotty work but don't make a joke about thats what leads me to believe this is just another way to take a few more dollars out of our pocket!
 
growler said:
If you do any trenching are ground work here on a lot 2 acres or more then you now need an erosion awareness card from the Georgia soil and water conservation commission. In this state you now need to be certified to dig a ditch. It's not even a joke. :grin: :grin:

Just though I would throw that in there. ;)
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i didn't know about the 2 acres part. They told us the classes and card are mandatory if you move any soil, regardless of lot size. They are getting extremely strict on that here. Inspections put a stop-work order on an entire subdivision last week because all the rain washed a little dirt into the road. They said that means the soil erosion protection wasn't done properly. We had some very heavy rains though.
 
brantmacga said:
i didn't know about the 2 acres part. They told us the classes and card are mandatory if you move any soil, regardless of lot size.
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Sorry, my mistake. It's one acre or larger or common development. You may as well say everyone and be done with it. ( I had to look it up).

Just another rule that can catch contractors by surprise. If you scratch your behind and there is dirt on it then you may be in trouble. ;)
 
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