jbone
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- Location
- Denver, Colorado
I am doing a relocation of a factory line. I have done this once before and it was interesting. I had engineering support from both facilities and I was able to pull it off despite the fact that the footprint had changed from one place to the next but like I said, I had engineering support, etc., so basically I just mapped conduit runs, made wire logs with from/ to's, etc..
The problem I am running into at this facility is that the line is in production as I am documenting panel terminations. I cannot shut a production line down as I am working in these panels (pull an interlock loose, check for continuity, etc.). Some of the MCP's are atrocious. Yards of control wiring looped through the Panduit, some capped off, some laying in the bottom of the panels, some terminated with an extra 5'-10' of slack in the panel, etc. My initial thought was I could map the conduit runs (not much wire trough) and leave the more egregious panels alone by just focsing on the destinations (junction boxes with terminal blocks, control stations, etc.). But the more I am getting into this, I am seeing more than a few of the wires labeled differently from end to the other. I will open a control station and there will be interlock wires with brady tags, 13, 19, 24,... but at the MCP I will have I003192, I003032DC+, etc.. Just pulling on the wires won't work as whoever installed this mess to begin with used a LOT of condulets, lol. Must not have been too comfortable running pipe, but I digress... I know they make toners that are supposed to be able to ring out energized wiring but I am curious what peoples experience with these have been like. I know Greenlee makes just such a toner as I have used it at the power house but I know it cost about $700 and I never used it to tone hot wire with. Don't mind spending the dough if it WORKS but.. you get where I'm going with this. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Justin LU68
The problem I am running into at this facility is that the line is in production as I am documenting panel terminations. I cannot shut a production line down as I am working in these panels (pull an interlock loose, check for continuity, etc.). Some of the MCP's are atrocious. Yards of control wiring looped through the Panduit, some capped off, some laying in the bottom of the panels, some terminated with an extra 5'-10' of slack in the panel, etc. My initial thought was I could map the conduit runs (not much wire trough) and leave the more egregious panels alone by just focsing on the destinations (junction boxes with terminal blocks, control stations, etc.). But the more I am getting into this, I am seeing more than a few of the wires labeled differently from end to the other. I will open a control station and there will be interlock wires with brady tags, 13, 19, 24,... but at the MCP I will have I003192, I003032DC+, etc.. Just pulling on the wires won't work as whoever installed this mess to begin with used a LOT of condulets, lol. Must not have been too comfortable running pipe, but I digress... I know they make toners that are supposed to be able to ring out energized wiring but I am curious what peoples experience with these have been like. I know Greenlee makes just such a toner as I have used it at the power house but I know it cost about $700 and I never used it to tone hot wire with. Don't mind spending the dough if it WORKS but.. you get where I'm going with this. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Justin LU68
