Romex connector in cover?
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peter d
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Looks like something Cletis Electric would do.
kwired
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- NE Nebraska
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I can't think of any NEC violation, but sure would be a poor design issue in most peoples minds.
Don't even go down the listing road, if we can't drill or punch holes in enclosures then we shouldn't even have drill bits or KO punches.
And exactly what makes you say that... :huh:
jumper
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kwired
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
OK those are NEC issues, but can you come up with anything on entry through the panel cover?
Maybe accessibility issue? How can you pull the cover off to work on the panel?
Also, 110.(A)(8) and 110.3(B)
jumper
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JFletcher
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I had a reply typed out but upon further perusal, Im changing my answer to "carefully" heh.
jaylectricity
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Did you take these pictures yourself?
It looks like somebody put in a new panel, converted the old panel into a junction box, then refed the circuits contained therein. Maybe the door is now access to the junction box with no intention of ever taking the entire cover off again. You can bolt the door down to require tools to open it.
It looks like somebody put in a new panel, converted the old panel into a junction box, then refed the circuits contained therein. Maybe the door is now access to the junction box with no intention of ever taking the entire cover off again. You can bolt the door down to require tools to open it.
kwired
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
There is a possibility that makes this somewhat more acceptable.
jaylectricity
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Still doesn't excuse the workmanship, i.e. twists in the wire, etc.
tadavidson
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- Electrical Contractor
Me says Nae, nothing would make this acceptable or "in a workman like manner".
Do you live and or/work in Ohio?
If not, you may be surprised at what passes for acceptable around here if you ever visit.
JFletcher
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Do you live and or/work in Ohio?
If not, you may be surprised at what passes for acceptable around here if you ever visit.
Same with VA. Neat and workmanlike means the wires are in the panel when the df is installed. or the NM isnt hanging on the ground in the crawlspace.
I think a prerequisite for being an inspector here is a severe allergy to crawlspaces. and they dont carry Epipens.
I've been to Youngstown numerous times. Nothing there was wired by anyone with a BAC less than .15. :lol:
kwired
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- NE Nebraska
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What is workman like is pretty debatable though.
Unless the AHJ has an official document that explains what is/is not workman like, I would have a hard time accepting that as the only reason for failing the installation, same can sort of be said for what is subject to physical abuse. Both should be more of a design issue IMO.
tadavidson
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- Georgia
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- Electrical Contractor
Okay, how about Romex being secured within 12 inches of entering a box?
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