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Yes, we are. The ends fit over the top edge of the T-bar. Look more closely to a bar next time you have on in your hands.
 
480sparky said:
The only thing worse than using the grid to lay your wire on is using the tops of the tile as a place to put your trash.... wire clippings, soda cans, ciggy butts....:mad:
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I always enjoy popping a tile, and having all that stuff fall out, so I have to clean it up off the carpet. :mad: :mad:
 
Dennis Alwon said:
Actually I did not know about that those bars were designed for the grid. Are we talking about the H7 Halo cans???

I was thinking of the old style bars on the Halo that were just resting on the top of the grid.
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Here is the info off a Juno Can...

Got NAIL!? Bar Hangers
? Pre-installed nail easily installs in regular lumber, engineered lumber and laminated beams.
? Safety and guidance system prevents snagging, ensures smooth straight nail penetration and allows bar hangers to be easily removed if necessary.
? Automatic levelling flange aligns the housing and lets you hold the housing in place with one hand while driving nails.
? Housing can be positioned at any point within 24" joist span
? Pass-N-Thru? feature allows bar hangers to be shortened without removing from plaster frame.
? Score lines allow "tooless" shortening for 12" joists.
? Bar hangers may be repositioned 90?.
? Integral T-bar clip snaps onto T-bars - no additional clips required.

My question is, is the ceiling grid rated for supporting recess cans or do I need to do more?
 
stickboy1375 said:
My question is, is the ceiling grid rated for supporting recess cans or do I need to do more?
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Thanks stickboy and Larry I learned something new again today.

Art. 410.16(C) gives no exception for a recessed can, however I must admit I have never added extra support for cans.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
Art. 410.16(C) gives no exception for a recessed can, however I must admit I have never added extra support for cans.
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Normally, it's sorta a waste of time, since they hardly weigh anything. Check most of the grid systems in use nowadays, and they're most often rated for some support. I've only added independant support wires on certain HID cans. Some of them can be a bit heavy with the ballasts.
 
mdshunk said:
Normally, it's sorta a waste of time, since they hardly weigh anything. Check most of the grid systems in use nowadays, and they're most often rated for some support. I've only added independant support wires on certain HID cans. Some of them can be a bit heavy with the ballasts.
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FWIW, the cans that do not snap into the ceiling grid I just screw in place, just so the light won't flop around during lamp replacement...
 
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