ROOF TOP UNIT SCCR

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Microwatt

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A coworker of mine just ran into this exact situation on one of his projects. Inspector came to do the final and noticed that the available fault current to two RTUs was higher than the rating (5kAIC). The inspector said he just needed to add fused disconnects upstream. The inspector came back the following day to confirm fused disconnects were installed and passed it, without having been providing any information. I thought this seemed wrong when I first heard about it and the more I read on it I think that is true.
 

kwired

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The way I see it is that the CONTROL PANEL must be marked with an SCCR and cannot be installed where the Available Fault Current is greater than that marked amount. Nowhere in any calculations of Available Fault Current is there any mention of using Current Limiting Fuses to alter that value; impedance, resistance, yes, fuse clearing time is not mentioned. Case in point; try to find a place to load a fuse current limitation value into SKM or ETAP engineering software for determining AFC... it's not there. BUT, if I'm wrong about this last point, someone tell me, I'm all ears.

The PANEL MANUFACTURER can use CL fuses as part of their methodology in determining the SCCR of the panel, because they can carefully coordinate the let-through of the fuses under the right circumstances against the withstand ratings of the components used on the power train. That is their job here. Those fuses CAN be located outside of the panel now, so long as the label on the panel, WHERE THE HIGHER SCCR IS LISTED, clearly dictates that those specific fuses MUST be used. But that is still the responsibility of the panel mfr. A contractor in the field is not changing the marked SCCR of the panel by adding CL fuses (that the panel mfr didn't specify) and the contractor in the field is not able to change the AFC by adding CL fuses either. There just is no provision in the NEC that allows this to happen. Maybe nobody thought it necessary because, again, attaining a higher SCCR is not that difficult, but maybe nobody realized just how lazy some mfrs would be with this.

Should there be a way to use CL fuses in the field? Maybe. One place to start is to add a definition of "Available Fault Current" to the next NEC. As of the 2017 code there isn't one, yet the term "available fault current" is used many times throughout the Code. It might be time to define it more clearly. If that definition allows for the use of current limiting fuses or breakers to be used in that calculation, so be it. But until that happens, it's not there.
With simpler applications we have what you say here. Unfused safety switch may have 10K rating as a general rating, but may specify 100K if there is a certain type of fuse (upstream or downstream in some cases) used. Basically is a condition they did some testing for, other conditions may work but were not specifically tested so not included in listing.
 

don_resqcapt19

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Should there be a way to use CL fuses in the field? Maybe. One place to start is to add a definition of "Available Fault Current" to the next NEC. As of the 2017 code there isn't one, yet the term "available fault current" is used many times throughout the Code. It might be time to define it more clearly. If that definition allows for the use of current limiting fuses or breakers to be used in that calculation, so be it. But until that happens, it's not there.
They added one for the 2020 code, but it does not say anything about how the amount of current is calculated or about using current limiting devices.
Fault Current, Available (Available Fault Current). The largest amount of current capable of being delivered at a point on the
system during a short-circuit condition. (CMP-10)
 

jim dungar

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They added one for the 2020 code, but it does not say anything about how the amount of current is calculated or about using current limiting devices.

Which doesn't help much, as any protective device will limit current during its operation (partly why series ratings exist) even though it may not meet the specific UL designation of current limiting. It is not uncommon to find molded case breakers that operate as fast as some current limiting fuses, although their let through current is significantly higher.
 
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