Saftey cost
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electricmanscott
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- Boston, MA
Huh? 
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
Are you saying that General Contractors are banning step ladders?
electricguy
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- British Columbia Canada
Darn you mean the GC's crew cant "borrow" my expensive fiberglass louisville step ladders anymore and i dont have to go hunting for them anymore
I do not see how 1926.1053(b)(21)
even remotely supports the GC's position of banning ladders.
Standard Interpretations
11/28/2007 - Whether OSHA requirements prohibit working from a portable stepladder and, if not, whether fall protection is required. 29 CFR 1926.1053(b)
Unless part of the story is being left out - IMHO - the GC is just asking to be slammed with extra costs for his "opinion".
BTW, all contractors are subject to OSHA ~ not just the "big boys".
Standard Interpretations
11/28/2007 - Whether OSHA requirements prohibit working from a portable stepladder and, if not, whether fall protection is required. 29 CFR 1926.1053(b)
Unless part of the story is being left out - IMHO - the GC is just asking to be slammed with extra costs for his "opinion".
BTW, all contractors are subject to OSHA ~ not just the "big boys".
cadpoint
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- Durham, NC
Yes, one major GC around here is crazy over it, no Ladders, if on a ladder body harness over six feet period!
Sizzer lifts, rolling scaffold, scaffold and body harness at all times.
Sizzer lifts, rolling scaffold, scaffold and body harness at all times.
Even when on a platform, what's the third point? :-?
This contractor must like to spend a lot of money....every elevated task would require a minimum of 2 men....one to hold the material, one to install the material...add a third man if a level is needed
Yup...equally ridiculous in most situations.
But hey...as long as it's the GC's money following, who cares?
I'd make a suggestion at the next safety meeting that all personal over 6' tall must be tied off at all times to reduce the risk of slip/fall injuries.
Mr.Sparkle
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- Jersey Shore
Oh nice......they didn't seem to mind about properly supporting CRANES on the sides of buildings until it caused them to lose money (NOT LIVES), but now they are all willy nilly over any possibility of bad press in regards to safety procedures to support the pending lawsuits...........sometimes human behavior can be outright disgusting.
petersonra
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- Northern illinois
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- engineer
I am guessing but its just possible they experienced a rash of ladder related accidents, and rather than being proactive they overreacted.
Its undeniably a whole lot safer to work out of a bucket, off a lift, or on a platform ladder. But its not always as practical as might be desired.
Its undeniably a whole lot safer to work out of a bucket, off a lift, or on a platform ladder. But its not always as practical as might be desired.
Fulthrotl
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Even when on a platform, what's the third point? :-?
as bipeds, i feel that requiring some safety authority requiring three points of
contact does seem a bit hypocritical....
Davebones
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- North Of Tampa Fl
What is meant by 3 points of contact according to OHSA.What section would we find that in?
Mr.Sparkle
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- Jersey Shore
Could be, but I'd bet it has more to do with lawyers and insurance agents.
KentAT
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- Northeastern PA
Although my employer also has training materials addressing a 3-point contact rule, I can't find it in OSHA 1910 (work requirements) or 1926 (construction).
kent
The link above will take you to:
Ladders. - 1926.1053
It is "assumed" points 1 and 2 are a persons feet...the third point is one hand while ascending/descending the ladder.
KentAT
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- Northeastern PA
Been there, read that. It does not mention a 3-point contact requirement. That is an interpretation...
kent
KentAT
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- Northeastern PA
...and as far as the regs go, I can use only my hands to go up and down the ladder without my feet touching the rungs as long as I have one hand grasping the ladder at all times and I am facing the ladder while I'm doing it.
kent
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