security

Status
Not open for further replies.
resistance said:
Recommendation on a wireless security camera with related accessories?
Click to expand...

Don't use wireless, unless you are looking to spend thousands to set up one camera.

There are a new breed of wireless cameras for resi application from Honeywell and DSC. They are wifi cameras that use their owner router that plugs into the regular router, its just ok for resi. Comast is selling their own brand as well A good wireless set up is not a camera that has its own transmitter built in.

What is the application for, that would help to guide you better?

Resi or Commercial?

Indoor/outdoor?

Lighting conditions?

Vandalism an concern?

How clear of a picture (resolution)?

How many cameras in the system?

What is the recording device?

What is the subject matter being recorded?
 
nhfire77 said:
Don't use wireless, unless you are looking to spend thousands to set up one camera.

There are a new breed of wireless cameras for resi application from Honeywell and DSC. They are wifi cameras that use their owner router that plugs into the regular router, its just ok for resi. Comast is selling their own brand as well A good wireless set up is not a camera that has its own transmitter built in.

What is the application for, that would help to guide you better?

Resi or Commercial?

Indoor/outdoor?

Lighting conditions?

Vandalism an concern?

How clear of a picture (resolution)?

How many cameras in the system?

What is the recording device?

What is the subject matter being recorded?
Click to expand...

Thanks, as I have no experience installing CCTV or security wiring. Wish someone could come over and give me a lesson :D
-Resi
-Outdoor
-Some sunlight
-To watch for intruders
-Not sure on resolution, but I’m sure better than average.
-One camera
-Haven’t decided on a recording device. (Not sure they want one)
-They will be recording people
 
Follow up questions:

Do they currently have a security system?

How do you plan in powering it? (120v, plug wall wart, 24v power supply)

DSC, Honeywell and napco have integrated systems for cameras. The panel would need to be upgraded and you would need to add additional parts. The cameras would be 'licensed' per camera per month. All of this depends on how the dealer sets it up. Anywhere $500-$1500.

A professional wireless set up for a single camera would be $2500-$2700 parts only. This would be a camera that streams to the Internet: an example

https://www.avalanwireless.com/product-details-900_mhz_integrated_wireless_tube_housing-36.htm

You can get cheap ones on eBay search wifi camera.
 
-No, they do not have a security system.

-120v input

IC!!
Not sure why a wireless would be so complicated? Maybe I?m missing something!? Is it the programming?
 
resistance said:
-No, they do not have a security system.

-120v input

IC!!
Not sure why a wireless would be so complicated? Maybe I’m missing something!? Is it the programming?
Click to expand...

Its the wireless transmission part of it. Commercial systems need stability and strength. The ebay ones are comsumer video codec streamers. They don't transmit too far and can be prone to interference. Also, the radio needs to be FCC licensed by the manufacturer.

According to Avalan's FAQ: Why not use 2.4 Ghz or WiFi?

WiFi systems generally are less secure and may not work well due to radio saturation and interference. The range is also reduced due to the wider spectrum and higher frequency being used


If you will be providing the camera, you will probably have a warranty. The ebay cameras will not have a trustworthy warranty. You do not want to deal with connectivity issues and user error, it will be an almost daily thing. Professional grade products have a must better up time and have a good warranty.

In addition, when you place RF equipment outside, unless its IP6X it will fall susceptible to moisture/temp issues within a year. The camera and or housing needs a heater/fan or large thermostatically controlled thermistor if it will be below 32f or if its over 100 a fan would be important. You can't get that, unless you buy professional. Consumer is throw away.

If, this is job is one wireless camera they want to plug into the back of their TV, don't bother selling anything to your customer (unless $3000 seems reasonable to them).


If, you can mount a standard 24VAC cctv camera with internal thermistor or heater/blower housing outside, feed the video through the wall to a single channel 900Mhz transmitter indoors , it would still be a $1300+ to the customer This link to the kit below is $300 plus $350 for a really good camera, plus a bunch of other factors.

For standard analog video transmission and an example of what I mean :http://www.videotransmitters.com/Products/DeskTop-Video-Series/TC-5808
 
Last edited:
nhfire77 said:
Its the wireless transmission part of it. Commercial systems need stability and strength. The ebay ones are comsumer video codec streamers. They don't transmit too far and can be prone to interference. Also, the radio needs to be FCC licensed by the manufacturer.

According to Avalan's FAQ: Why not use 2.4 Ghz or WiFi?

WiFi systems generally are less secure and may not work well due to radio saturation and interference. The range is also reduced due to the wider spectrum and higher frequency being used


If you will be providing the camera, you will probably have a warranty. The ebay cameras will not have a trustworthy warranty. You do not want to deal with connectivity issues and user error, it will be an almost daily thing. Professional grade products have a must better up time and have a good warranty.

In addition, when you place RF equipment outside, unless its IP6X it will fall susceptible to moisture/temp issues within a year. The camera and or housing needs a heater/fan or large thermostatically controlled thermistor if it will be below 32f or if its over 100 a fan would be important. You can't get that, unless you buy professional. Consumer is throw away.

If, this is job is one wireless camera they want to plug into the back of their TV, don't bother selling anything to your customer (unless $3000 seems reasonable to them).


If, you can mount a standard 24VAC cctv camera with internal thermistor or heater/blower housing outside, feed the video through the wall to a single channel 900Mhz transmitter indoors , it would still be a $1300+ to the customer This link to the kit below is $300 plus $350 for a really good camera, plus a bunch of other factors.

For standard analog video transmission and an example of what I mean :http://www.videotransmitters.com/Products/DeskTop-Video-Series/TC-5808
Click to expand...
http://www.videotransmitters.com/Products/DeskTop-Video-Series/TC-5808[/QUOTE] Good info!! Thanks!!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top