Self Contained Hot Tub

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A/A Fuel GTX

A/A Fuel GTX

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For a self contained hot tub, 120 Volt, cord connected, is there a requirement that the receptacle be at least 5 feet away from the edge of the tub?
 
Yes, the outlet must be 6' from the tub. I am assuming this is an outdoor installation so the tub must following the requirements of Part II which is the same for a permanently installed pool.
 
OK, so I go to the jobsite, install the circuit and receptacle per Art 680. The hot tub arrives a few days later. The tub ends up being 2' away from the receptacle. Is that my problem?
 
A/A Fuel GTX said:
OK, so I go to the jobsite, install the circuit and receptacle per Art 680. The hot tub arrives a few days later. The tub ends up being 2' away from the receptacle. Is that my problem?
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At very least you should probably warn the owner of what the rules are and maybe have some sort of documentation of that warning.
 
A/A Fuel GTX said:
OK, so I go to the jobsite, install the circuit and receptacle per Art 680. The hot tub arrives a few days later. The tub ends up being 2' away from the receptacle. Is that my problem?
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Don't install the receptacle until the tub is there. No inspection???
 
If that receptacle is under your permit and/ or your license, yes, it is your problem.
Not your fault necessarily, but it is your problem.
Better coordination in the future may prevent this problem from happening again.
 
mgookin said:
If that receptacle is under your permit and/ or your license, yes, it is your problem.
Not your fault necessarily, but it is your problem.
Better coordination in the future may prevent this problem from happening again.
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mgookin is correct, however if the GC/prints/HO specced "it is going exactly HERE", which was 6' away, and changed his/her mind, then you've every right to charge to move the receptacle.
 
The scenario has changed. Now the hot tub is going to be hard wired at 240 volts. I installed a hot tub disconnect with a GFCI breaker and the tub will be 8' away from the disconnect. Now my question is why does Art 680 limit a liquid tight run from the disconnect to the tub to only 6'? What's the big deal if there is an insulated EGC in the liquid tight whip?
 
A/A Fuel GTX said:
The scenario has changed. Now the hot tub is going to be hard wired at 240 volts. I installed a hot tub disconnect with a GFCI breaker and the tub will be 8' away from the disconnect. Now my question is why does Art 680 limit a liquid tight run from the disconnect to the tub to only 6'? What's the big deal if there is an insulated EGC in the liquid tight whip?
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Don't know why they had that 6 foot limitation. 2014 NEC removed it though.
 
Yes......Now I see in 680.25 (2014) that LFMC is allowed with an insulated EGC without a length restriction. I'm still working off the 2011 but I feel confident that using LFMC between the disconnect and the hot tub will be compliant.
 
A/A Fuel GTX said:
Yes......Now I see in 680.25 (2014) that LFMC is allowed with an insulated EGC without a length restriction. I'm still working off the 2011 but I feel confident that using LFMC between the disconnect and the hot tub will be compliant.
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Actually I never realized there was a 6 foot restriction in the past and am sure I have violated it before.
 
A/A Fuel GTX said:
Yes......Now I see in 680.25 (2014) that LFMC is allowed with an insulated EGC without a length restriction. I'm still working off the 2011 but I feel confident that using LFMC between the disconnect and the hot tub will be compliant.
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Tell your inspector you're wiring for future code compliance! :)
 
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