360Youth
Senior Member
- Location
- Newport, NC
We received this letter from Generac after their determination that the installation of a ground rod at the standby generator is at best unnecessary and at worst detrimental....
January 17, 2013
To whom it may concern,
UL 2200 14.1.6 requires that a terminal for a grounding electrode conductor must be provided on the outside of all generators even though it may not necessarily be connected because of the type of installation the generator is being installed for. For example, if you are bonding the ground to the neutral at the service, the grounding electrode would be optional as it is a non-separately derived system. In situations where the bond is made at the generator, the grounding electrode terminal would be used and this would be considered a separately derived system. All Generac generators, except the industrial product are non-separately derived systems and would not require a ground rod.
Because UL doesn?t know how the generator will be installed in the field, the standard appears as such and it requires the terminal to be installed at the time of manufacturing in the event it is used as a separately derived system.
Best Regards,
Bob Cramer
Master Electrician/Electrical Inspector
Generac Power Systems, Inc.
We distributed that letter to various municipalities for their information and received this response back from one of the inspectors (names left to protect the "innocent" )...
It is my understanding and also the
Electrical Division of DOI, that where there may be a potential of the neutral being severed on the line side (due to storm, etc.) the system would become separately derived.
thus requiring the terminal on the generator to be connected to the grounding electrode in all cases.
Please run this by Mr. Bob Cramer.
Thanks
Does the loss of utility service (eroded line, downed powerline, etc) constitute a separately derived system or is defined and contained within the service equipment itself? Thanks.
January 17, 2013
To whom it may concern,
UL 2200 14.1.6 requires that a terminal for a grounding electrode conductor must be provided on the outside of all generators even though it may not necessarily be connected because of the type of installation the generator is being installed for. For example, if you are bonding the ground to the neutral at the service, the grounding electrode would be optional as it is a non-separately derived system. In situations where the bond is made at the generator, the grounding electrode terminal would be used and this would be considered a separately derived system. All Generac generators, except the industrial product are non-separately derived systems and would not require a ground rod.
Because UL doesn?t know how the generator will be installed in the field, the standard appears as such and it requires the terminal to be installed at the time of manufacturing in the event it is used as a separately derived system.
Best Regards,
Bob Cramer
Master Electrician/Electrical Inspector
Generac Power Systems, Inc.
We distributed that letter to various municipalities for their information and received this response back from one of the inspectors (names left to protect the "innocent" )...
It is my understanding and also the
Electrical Division of DOI, that where there may be a potential of the neutral being severed on the line side (due to storm, etc.) the system would become separately derived.
thus requiring the terminal on the generator to be connected to the grounding electrode in all cases.
Please run this by Mr. Bob Cramer.
Thanks
Does the loss of utility service (eroded line, downed powerline, etc) constitute a separately derived system or is defined and contained within the service equipment itself? Thanks.