Seperate charge for services?

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My labor goes up if the GC buys the material.

Problem I have with GC doing that is they never get what I need, so I spend more time on the job. They always want to buy the cheapest of everything.... service gear, can lights, and device boxes are always not up to par. Some stuff just won't pass inspecition, other is just too time-consuming to work with. They think they're saving money, but they're really spending more in the long run. But that's just more in my pocket...:smile:
 
elvis_931 said:
Here is how I do it:
The builder asks me: What do you charge /sq.ft?-- I buy materials; You buy materials.
If you buy materials and I provide labor only it is...$.
This number is based on my overhead- Employees on the job, estimated time to complete job, tools, insurance, plus desired profit! I take this number and divide it by the sq.footage of the average size house in the area and get a /sqft price that it quite profitable. If I get a small house to wire it pays better. If I get and average size house to wire, it pays what I want. If I get a larger house it pays what I want still. Anything custom costs extra /opening.
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Still has no numbers attached to it....like I said:
celtic said:
I have yet to have someone explain to me how to accurately price a home by the sq. ft.

..... every post pretty much ends up the same:

How do you arrive at the sq. ft. price?
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The result is either:
- based on my historical data, which is never revealed
- dead silence and we never hear about sq. ft. pricing again from that poster.

Either way, we get no answer.
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I've oftened wondered how others do the sq.ft way. Here's how I've been doing it. I use mulipliers, starting out with 2.5 x sq.ft, that's for a no-frills one story, no basement. Total costs for a 2000 sq.ft house is $5,000. As the "frills are added into the equation, I start adding tenths of a %. For a 2000 sq.ft house with a basement, I go with 2.7 x sq.ft, depending on how finished the basement is going to be. I take into consideration of where the panel is going to be. Is it on the first floor or in the basement. Same theory applies to a two story house, where the panel is. On two story houses I start at 2.8-3.0 x sq. ft. Points are added for hot tubs, spa's, outdoor lighting, size of garage and whether it needs "workshop type circuits". Other factors that cover my labor are points added for cathedral ceiling lights/fans, can lights and how many. I take into thought,"is there alot of 3-way/4-way circuits? I assigned values to all of these things, add them up and multiply by sq.ft. I seem to be making money with this and usually hit middle of the road against other EC's.
Just my humble thoughts.

P.S. Hope all had a Merry Christmas, and have a fun and safe New Year.
 
celtic said:
Still has no numbers attached to it....like I said:
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Of course not. Everyone else's numbers will differ from mine and each others. The point is: you can make good money on sq.ft pricing same as /opening or line item pricing. Like it or not. You said no one who does sq.ft pricing has ever showed how they do it. So I showed you how I do it.
 
elvis_931 said:
You said no one who does sq.ft pricing has ever showed how they do it. So I showed you how I do it.
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No offense, but that was all fluff and no substance.


On the other hand...
footerr said:
I've oftened wondered how others do the sq.ft way. Here's how I've been doing it. I use mulipliers, starting out with 2.5 x sq.ft, that's for a no-frills one story, no basement. Total costs for a 2000 sq.ft house is $5,000.
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...shows us some numbers.
Plenty of substance.


I may or may not agree with footerr's numbers - but at least it shows us something a little more solid than just using a Ouija board.
 
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