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service change had to relocate service 3.5 feet from existing. Did not extend any wires all ckts are still in previous spot turned existing service to a subpanel Took out old service main and replaced it with a 125 amp subpanel. Subpanel is being feed by a 100 amp breaker in new service. My question is inspector wants the old ckts in the new subpanel to be AFCI breakers. Can I argue I did not extend or add anything to existing ckts thank you. Old service was a 100 amp new service is 200 amp at a different location 3.5 feet away from old service
 
That is very dependent on the municipalities code. For example, here in Florida, they are all required to follow state code. In California, I can't remember but I think it is the same. Either way, request a code reference first, then request a ruling by the AHJ. That is about all you can do unless you want to take it in front of the State Board, which can take weeks or months.
 
I agree with the OP that the new feeder does not modify the existing circuits.

Note to the OP that you could have left the original main breaker panel intact.
 
I'd agree with Larry and the OP. 210.12 states an extension of 6' for the circuits required, therefore you should not be required to add AFCI.
 
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service change had to relocate service 3.5 feet from existing. Did not extend any wires all ckts are still in previous spot turned existing service to a subpanel Took out old service main and replaced it with a 125 amp subpanel. Subpanel is being feed by a 100 amp breaker in new service. My question is inspector wants the old ckts in the new subpanel to be AFCI breakers. Can I argue I did not extend or add anything to existing ckts thank you. Old service was a 100 amp new service is 200 amp at a different location 3.5 feet away from old service
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We had inspectors in NC who required all cir. that needed to be afci be done that way when just changing panels. The cmp wrote the extension section for a reason. If you did not extend circuit then it is clear no afci is needed. The NEC, as others have said, allows 6' of extension.
 
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We had inspectors in NC who required all cir. that needed to be afci be done that way when just changing panels. The cmp wrote the extension section for a reason. If you did not extend circuit then it is clear no afci is needed. The NEC, as others have said, allows 6' of extension.
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Wasn't this your code change so we can blame you? :LOL:

Here in NJ the extension rule has been deleted.
 
infinity said:
Wasn't this your code change so we can blame you? :LOL:

Here in NJ the extension rule has been deleted.
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Yes & No-- you can blame me for getting that extra 6' added not the other part. I tried to get it extended for the 2020 but they didn't want hear nothing about that. I also got them to add that the 6' is counted from box to box- not the conductors inside the box
 
Dennis Alwon said:
Yes & No-- you can blame me for getting that extra 6' added not the other part. I tried to get it extended for the 2020 but they didn't want hear nothing about that. I also got them to add that the 6' is counted from box to box- not the conductors inside the box
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Actually your type of code change is what the CMP's should be looking for.
 
infinity said:
Actually your type of code change is what the CMP's should be looking for.
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I was a bit chagrined when I saw that they did not want to add more length. At least 10- 15'. NC has an amendment allowing 50'. Imo that is abit much but I get what they are trying to do.
 
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